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| 1) Our 50% completion rate was shocking
2) Did we ever used to chuck this many forward passes ?
3) Congratulations to whoever brought the 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card this week.
4) Ganson was a joke. His penalties were inconsistant and we were no way 10 - 1 the worst team on the park (notice how he chucked a few in right at the end to 'even it up' a bit ?)
- Senior's penalty for a 'high' was laughable. Either it was high, in which case there must have been scores of other similar offences missed by both sides. Ignore the guff from 'Waldorf & Stadler' about it being a grapple. If that's a grapple, then again the game was littered with them.
- Webb binning was another 'get Leeds' decision. By the time Webb got off him, I counted four (five usually being the level for a penalty). Obst's final stumble, Webb isn't even touching him. It is not a penalty if a player cannot get to their feet without interferance.
- Ablett gets lifted and dumped in touch .... Head & feed to Wakefield. Leeds do exactly the same thing moments later = Penalty.
- The penalty for the kick through, where Ablett got a further 10 yards for dissent was another piece of clueless refereeing. Ganson claim's that Ablett 'moved his foot'. Defending players are not obliged to move out of the way and it is not a penalty when attackers throw themselves at Peacock and come off second best. If the 4th official is allowed to make comments to the match referee during the game, then why isn't something like that called ?
- Sideshow Bob's try was clearly a knock on from several angles. You can see it pass through his hands and Petersen knock it on. You can see the hand make contact and the ball change direction. How the video referee missed it is beyond me UNLESS there is some ulterior agenda ? Was it really that difficult, especially since they were happy with Ablett's touchline run in the first half.
5) Leeds came very close to losing tonight, mainly by giving Danny Brough acres of space to run around and kick Leeds to death. Did we learn nothing from the 2005 Cup Final defeat ? We must have given masses of space if we allowed a one-trick pony like Obst the room to hurt us.
6) Sinfield's short kick off was excellent
7) Atkins had a great game against Senior, but Senior had a even better one ...
8 ) As has been mentioned on here Dale Ferguson looks a decent player and looked the pick of the Wakey pack and I wouldn't mind him in a Leeds shirt.
And the Brad Drew Mystery ?
Where he's going now that Terry Newton is programming Belle Vue in to his Sat Nav ...
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"And the Brad Drew Mystery ?
Where he's going now that Terry Newton is programming Belle Vue in to his Sat Nav ...'"
Drew is cas bound
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| Quote ="wakeyjosh"Drew is cas bound'"
I kinda knew that , but the thread title wouldn't have worked otherwise ...
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"<snip>'"
But it was a good game. We can forget Ganson's abysmal performance because Leeds escaped with the 2 points in an exciting finish.
I'd forget about that Senior high tackle, incredible.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"
I'd forget about that Senior high tackle, incredible.'"
If he get's matches for that we may as well all pack it in.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"
- Senior's penalty for a 'high' was laughable. Either it was high, in which case there must have been scores of other similar offences missed by both sides. Ignore the guff from 'Waldorf & Stadler' about it being a grapple. If that's a grapple, then again the game was littered with them.
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esp as (I think KL) got a head high tackle on him in the first half which Ganson saw clearly and i gnored
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| Very well summarised Admiral.
Whenever the ref puts in such an abismal performance I want to scream from the roof top about how bad it was but I dont want to come across as placing the blame purely on that. I would love to see the penalty counts with Ganson as ref.
Once again at times we look deadly, almost unstopable. But also at times it looked like we didnt have a clue. Very strange.
As for the last minute win, we have threatened that a few times this season. Say whatever you want about this team but you cant say the ever give up.
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| Why did Ganson go to the screen for the winning try? There was absolutely nothing controversial or debatable about it.
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| Quote ="UnleashKeith Carnegie"Why did Ganson go to the screen for the winning try? There was absolutely nothing controversial or debatable about it.'"
He was hoping Ablett was offside when McGuire kicked through
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| Quote ="UnleashKeith Carnegie"Why did Ganson go to the screen for the winning try? There was absolutely nothing controversial or debatable about it.'"
By that time he had lost his bottle
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"1) Our 50% completion rate was shocking
2) Did we ever used to chuck this many forward passes ?
3) Congratulations to whoever brought the 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card this week.
4) Ganson was a joke. His penalties were inconsistant and we were no way 10 - 1 the worst team on the park (notice how he chucked a few in right at the end to 'even it up' a bit ?)
- Senior's penalty for a 'high' was laughable. Either it was high, in which case there must have been scores of other similar offences missed by both sides. Ignore the guff from 'Waldorf & Stadler' about it being a grapple. If that's a grapple, then again the game was littered with them.
- Webb binning was another 'get Leeds' decision. By the time Webb got off him, I counted four (five usually being the level for a penalty). Obst's final stumble, Webb isn't even touching him. It is not a penalty if a player cannot get to their feet without interferance.
- Ablett gets lifted and dumped in touch .... Head & feed to Wakefield. Leeds do exactly the same thing moments later = Penalty.
- The penalty for the kick through, where Ablett got a further 10 yards for dissent was another piece of clueless refereeing. Ganson claim's that Ablett 'moved his foot'. Defending players are not obliged to move out of the way and it is not a penalty when attackers throw themselves at Peacock and come off second best. If the 4th official is allowed to make comments to the match referee during the game, then why isn't something like that called ?
- Sideshow Bob's try was clearly a knock on from several angles. You can see it pass through his hands and Petersen knock it on. You can see the hand make contact and the ball change direction. How the video referee missed it is beyond me UNLESS there is some ulterior agenda ? Was it really that difficult, especially since they were happy with Ablett's touchline run in the first half.
5) Leeds came very close to losing tonight, mainly by giving Danny Brough acres of space to run around and kick Leeds to death. Did we learn nothing from the 2005 Cup Final defeat ? We must have given masses of space if we allowed a one-trick pony like Obst the room to hurt us.
6) Sinfield's short kick off was excellent
7) Atkins had a great game against Senior, but Senior had a even better one ...
8 ) As has been mentioned on here Dale Ferguson looks a decent player and looked the pick of the Wakey pack and I wouldn't mind him in a Leeds shirt.
And the Brad Drew Mystery ?
Where he's going now that Terry Newton is programming Belle Vue in to his Sat Nav ...'"
Does that include the one from Hall for Burrow's try.
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| Quote ="UnleashKeith Carnegie"Why did Ganson go to the screen for the winning try? There was absolutely nothing controversial or debatable about it.'"
I do believe that a new rule was put in place after the RLF reviewed the controversial last minute decision in the infamous “Millennium Tragic” game where Tansey was awarded a try despite been a country mile offside. The new rule was that if such a try is scored in the dieing seconds and there’s a video ref present then use it as it could save a lot of future controversy.
Surely someone whose more in the know with the RFL can back that one up or am I still recovering from my voluntary ECT?
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| Quote ="UnleashKeith Carnegie"Why did Ganson go to the screen for the winning try? There was absolutely nothing controversial or debatable about it.'"
wasn't there a directive that all last minute, match winning tries get referred to the video ref?
Plus after the bashing he took after Millenium Magical Try he was never gonna take a chance on stuffing up in our favour again!
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| You lot are dumb, you got away with shiit loads of stuff last night AGAIN! Just because Ganson picked you up on more than the other Leeds bum boys from the rfl he's a kn0b!!! Get a grip!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"You lot are dumb, you got away with shiit loads of stuff last night AGAIN! Just because Ganson picked you up on more than the other Leeds bum boys from the rfl he's a kn0b!!! Get a grip!'"
Can we have that in English please?
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Can we have that in English please?'"
No, he's from Hull, the language that you read there is what passes for conversation in his part of Hull - we're just lucky that he can't spell "grunt"
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"You lot are dumb, you got away with shiit loads of stuff last night AGAIN! Just because Ganson picked you up on more than the other Leeds bum boys from the rfl he's a kn0b!!! Get a grip!'"
He also seems to have issues with bum boys and nobs!
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| Quote ="UnleashKeith Carnegie"Why did Ganson go to the screen for the winning try? There was absolutely nothing controversial or debatable about it.'"
He wanted to make sure no-one was offside and cheating (Millenium magic v Bradford) Put yourself in his shoes imagine getting a last few seconds decision wrong and it costing a team 2 points AGAIN!!!!!!
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| Ah, you west Yorkshire lot. So predictable in your responses, are you denying that all that happened last night was that Ganson picked you up on things most of the other refs are scared to?
When your captain and coach are bemoaning your discipline I find it hard to believe that you're not just having a go for the sake of it!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Ah, you west Yorkshire lot. So predictable in your responses, are you denying that all that happened last night was that Ganson picked you up on things most of the other refs are scared to?
When your captain and coach are bemoaning your discipline I find it hard to believe that you're not just having a go for the sake of it!'"
Still smarting after last wek I see?
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Still smarting after last wek I see?
'" what, after the worst hull team in recent years ran you close? No not at all.
Is anyone on here capable of an intelligent response?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Ah, you west Yorkshire lot. So predictable in your responses, are you denying that all that happened last night was that Ganson picked you up on things most of the other refs are scared to?
When your captain and coach are bemoaning your discipline I find it hard to believe that you're not just having a go for the sake of it!'"
Dont lump us all together
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| Quote ="pyeman"Dont lump us all together
'" sorry my good man!
This Leeds lot it is then!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"what, after the worst hull team in recent years ran you close? No not at all.
Is anyone on here capable of an intelligent response?'"
Victory is all that matters not the margin of said victory. History remembers the winner, no one remembers the loser (thats you).
You are still smarting after last week aren't you. Let it go, its in the past now!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"sorry my good man!
This Leeds lot it is then!
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Thats better
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