Anyone who has seen the footage of Ben Cockayne's attack on a helpless victim can only but wonder what Walker and Bailey did that was that much worse to warrant the sentences levied on them.

Cockayne has been given a suspended 12 month sentence - how can this be comparable justice?

Colour?

Different judge's,the prison's are full and in chev and ryan's case the judge stated he was gonna make an "example" of them.
I've been dissillusioned with our justice system re-serious crime sentencing for a lot of years as it seems way too lenient.

Looking at the footage, it is shocking that he got away with it. Not only did he attack the bloke, it also looks like he stood over him, gloating as well.

A bit like Bailey did to Fa'asavalu after the legal tackle a couple of weeks ago?

Not only that he actually goes back for a second go - how can we allow these people to out on the streets - the inconsistency of sentencing gives you little faith in the system and its processes

www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... l?id=41953 Absolutely sickening

www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... l?id=41953 Absolutely sickening

It makes you wonder what you have to do to get a prison sentence - this is obscene.

Did Bailey attack Maurie before hand, kicking him while he was unconscious on the floor???

No, thought not.

As I remember many people at the time, including the Leeds club, were shocked by the custodial sentence given in the Walker/Bailey judgement. I seem to remember the club making a statement that they thought that the sentence was overly harsh. If you think like that then maybe they got the Cockayne judgement right. I don't think prison is much use sometimes. The kid has a job (or maybe not? I don't think the league should de-register him but it's possible) and a sporting club can be the best place for someone to learn from a mistake like this. And, he hasn't gotten away with it. Any more trouble and he's inside for a considerable stretch and his career is effectively over.
He's been punished but the best chance of protecting the public from him may be to have him a useful member of society?

Then again if he goes out and beats up someone else next week I'm talking out of my @r$e.

I've always maintained that there are certain incidents, that if they happened to my family, would result in me taking the law into my own hands, and I'm probably not the only one.

Hopefully the next RL players to be sentenced are dealt with more severley, and a prison sentence is deemed suitable.

Surely this sends a message out that it is OK to kick a man half senseless - what if the guy had died or suffered brain injury should he have dealt with in the same way - his actions could have been identical but with a different result?

On the field Cockayne appears indisciplines and hot-headed this is further evidence of a man incapable of controlling his temper - do you think playing an agressive sport is going to help him control that?

You can tell they are from Hull, with them trying to steal the poor blokes shirt

Er, they are both from Normanton actually.

It does seem a little lenient.

Also, with clear CCTV evidence, why nearly a year and a half to get resolved?

If you seriously want to know what goes on in a magistrates head when he/she considers sentencing then you may want to have a look at [url=http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/docs/magistrates_court_sentencing_guidelines_update.pdfThe Magistrates Sentencing Guidelines[/url and in particular pages 26 to 28 which cover ABH and all of the mitigating circumstances which have to be taken into account.

Then go ahead have a Daily Mail rant.

No he would have been dealt with a more punitive charge and punishment.

Thats how it works, read the guidelines.

This is appauling, just what exactly do you have to do to get sent down these days. Makes no wonder that there are incidents like this in most towns up and down the country when the "punishment" is so ridiculous.

For those that say there are not enough available spaces in prison to cater for criminals like this, what is stopping us building some more prisons, and employing people in the process?

There is so little discipline in society these days, and it's not going to change until punishments fit crimes and there are effective deterrents in place.

Disgraceful.

FFS



Click the link at the top of the page and do some research for yourself !!!

it wasn't there when I started typing....

Thanks.



Also if that's what the rules say it must be right, couldn't possibly have the rules wrong could we?

How would you feel if it was one of your kids on the receiving end of that sort of criminal incident?

If you get down to your local Crown Court next week I'm sure there will be more than enough lengthy custodial sentences handed down to keep you happy.
P.S. if you ask really nicely I'll tell you which Judges to look out for

The intent was the same fortunately for the victim he suffered no long term effects - looking at the footage Cockayne intended to inflict as much pain as possible.

OK so reading that, I'm assuming he should have been sentenced in the highest category, bearing in mind he used a weapon (a shod foot - section c) and the risk of harm was high through kicking a prone victim to a vulnerable part of the body - section cii).

From that looking at the sentencing I would guess that there was provocation and a guilty plea both of which would lead to the lower sentence received.

Anywhere near?

It doesnt look nice and just looking at that you would say he deserves time (there is no excuse for kicking a man in the head). However, we do not have all the details and I'm sure the judge took EVERYTHING into consideration before making his/her judgement.

I love the bar room lawyers on here.