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| Interesting.
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/apr/01/super-league-inland-revenue-offshore-payments[/url
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| your in poo poo
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| More quality journalism from the Guarinad - it hasn't been the Inland Revenue for quite some time now...
The issue has been brewing for a while though, and won't just affect rugby league.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Interesting.
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/apr/01/super-league-inland-revenue-offshore-payments[/url'"
Interesting that Wigan avoided being the first name on the list.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Interesting that Wigan avoided being the first name on the list.'"
its obvious isnt it
going for Us, Saints and Warrington..big famous clubs first
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| Quote ="tvoc"Interesting that Wigan avoided being the first name on the list.'"
It did say major sides
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"its obvious isnt it
going for Us, Saints and Warrington..big famous clubs first'"
Silly me although there is a rather obvious flaw in your theory also.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Silly me although there is a rather obvious flaw in your theory also.'"
There not a big club?
Their fans certainly think they are
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"There not a big club?
Their fans certainly think they are'"
Their wage bill is Leeds + Saints
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Their wage bill is Leeds + Saints
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Im guessing its somewhere in the region of say....Oh.........£1.6 Million
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| Quote ="tvoc"Interesting that Wigan avoided being the first name on the list.'"
Mr Wilson wouldn't want to make them look bad now would he
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| About four years ago at a shareholders at Wigan meeting Mo was asked why Wigan were not doing this.
He replied that he expected the Inland Revenue to clamp down on it and that Dave Whelan(who was THEN the owner) has specifically instructed the club not to do it.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"About four years ago at a shareholders at Wigan meeting Mo was asked why Wigan were not doing this.
He replied that he expected the Inland Revenue to clamp down on it and that Dave Whelan(who was THEN the owner) has specifically instructed the club not to do it.'"
Are you seriously suggesting that in the past 25 years, Wigan have actually behaved in a sensible financial manner at least once ?!?!?!?!?
I refuse to believe you, sell Tomkins and Ainscough and sign Wally Lewis.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Are you seriously suggesting that in the past 25 years, Wigan have actually behaved in a sensible financial manner at least once ?!?!?!?!?
I refuse to believe you, sell Tomkins and Ainscough and sign Wally Lewis.'"
Are you calling me a liar?
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| Could explain why Warington need to unload Gleeson (alledgedly).
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| Wouldn't it be "against the spirit" of the cap?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"About four years ago at a shareholders at Wigan meeting Mo was asked why Wigan were not doing this.
He replied that he expected the Inland Revenue to clamp down on it and that Dave Whelan(who was THEN the owner) has specifically instructed the club not to do it.'" Just shows what an out of touch idiot he was then. That the loop-hole is closing now is no justification for not utilising it for the last four years.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Wouldn't it be "against the spirit" of the cap?'" No. My understanding is it counts on the cap. This was purely a tax saving for the players benefit, making their salaries over here a much more attractive proposition for them.
To reiterate, there was nothing wrong in this at all. Its' just a loop-hole that is being closed.
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| Quote ="G1"Just shows what an out of touch idiot he was then. That the loop-hole is closing now is no justification for not utilising it for the last four years.
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They didn't need to stoop to using loopholes to break the cap, they just blatantly ignored it.
As for Saints how rubbish must their accountants be if they were using these loopholes and still overspending!
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| Quote ="G1"No. My understanding is it counts on the cap. This was purely a tax saving for the players benefit, making their salaries over here a much more attractive proposition for them.
To reiterate, there was nothing wrong in this at all. Its' just a loop-hole that is being closed.'"
There was also nothing wrong with deferring payments to keep inside the £1.6 miilion but it it didn't stop the "spirit of the cap" being brought into play.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"There was also nothing wrong with deferring payments to keep inside the £1.6 miilion but it it didn't stop the "spirit of the cap" being brought into play.'"
The RFL presumably deemed it otherwise though when carried out on such a scale? Four point deduction wasn't it? Or was the four point the year after? Was that the largest penalty handed down in this country?
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| Quote ="tvoc"The RFL presumably deemed it otherwise though when carried out on such a scale? Four point deduction wasn't it? Or was the four point the year after? Was that the largest penalty handed down in this country?'"
Lyndsay still managed to squirm out of the worse of it though because the new punishment's were being introduced but wigan avoided it because some paperwork hadn't been filled in properly.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Lyndsay still managed to squirm out of the worse of it though because the new punishment's were being introduced but wigan avoided it because some paperwork hadn't been filled in properly.'"
You can't really blame Lindsay for the RFL's sheer incompetence...... not this time at least.
The offshore payment thing could be an interesting development though and it will be worth watching how it plays out, especially if it impacts on the current seasons cap.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"There was also nothing wrong with deferring payments to keep inside the £1.6 miilion'" Erm, yes there was. Hence the penalty.
To reiterate, these schemes were about saving players tax. They had no effect on the cap whatsoever and were included within it.
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