Just reminds me so much of How we used to be before the young uns came through the ranks and made us what we are today. Big names, no bottle and a crowd baying for blood. An absolute shocker again tonight which doesnt bode well for the season!

I must admit that i thought we should of gone for king and morley when they were available




Mind you i'm led to believe we were in for moz but not for a 4 yr deal on the ££££'ss wire offered.

Hanley to Wigan
Nobby to Wire
Lowes to DWP

Morley was Warrington's best and still has a lot to offer the Super League only it's a team game and Warrington aren't.

I believe that's right.

And both team will stay
Deep in the mire!

battle between Warrington and Wigan for the first axe of the season.

1 Leeds 3 3 0 0 65 20 45 6
2 Hull 2 2 0 0 46 30 16 4
3 Huddersfield 1 1 0 0 30 8 22 2
4 Salford 1 1 0 0 28 16 12 2
5 St Helens 1 1 0 0 26 14 12 2
6 Harlequins RL 1 1 0 0 12 8 4 2
7 Castleford 2 1 0 1 36 34 2 2
8 Catalans 2 1 0 1 48 50 -2 2
9 Wakefield 2 1 0 1 16 24 -8 2
10 Bradford 1 0 1 0 13 13 0 1
11 Hull K R 2 0 1 1 23 32 -9 1
12 Wigan 3 0 0 3 38 58 -20 0
13 Warrington 2 0 0 2 34 66 -32 0
14 Crusaders 3 0 0 3 42 84 -42 0

Wigan and Warrington in the bottom 3

Its good to see a young english coach in lowes getting a chance but when i look at warrington i feel its crying out for an old head in there to sort things out. Im surprised the wire board took a different view

who will be the first one to get points?

Theyn need to put a completely new face in, and give him total power to weed out the rot in that place. Something is deeply wrong.

I think it might rhyme with Bree Liers.

its much too early to be so smug

Family member so I feel I am qualified to make the following comment...

Garreth Carvell is a dirty lowlife scumbag and should be booted out of the league .
I watch a lot of his games and take an interest in his performances and I am disusted with his behaviour .
He could , and would , be a lot better if he would behave himself . He's just a hooligan . Did everyone but the ref see him throw FOUR punches in a tackle tonight ?

Reilly launching blows while the other player being held was better. coward.

No but I saw him being held down and get the penalty - is that the one you're referring to?

I didn't care too much for his challenge on the Catalans winger (Stacul?) after he scored. A potential 8 point try right there.



The term couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag could have been invented for Reilly.

He was laid on the grass and throwing them at the head of an opponent who was also on the grass . he won a penalty . His game in general is dangerous . I appreciate that by the nature of it anyone who plays the game is risking injury every time they enter the field of play . but deliberate attacks like that are uncalled for .
Remember his '07 hit on Robbie(?) at Headingley ? Even my mam ( his aunt ) was shouting ( send the dirty b4stard off )

You appear to have an issue with him. I don't particularly so you're on your own.

I didn't think the incident you're referring to tonight was anything to get excited about.

I'm trying to remember who he shouldered in the back at the KC last season and got away with it.

Did anyone notice the bananarama "goodbye" song being played as the cats player was sin binned? And we thought the bulls were bad for gimmicks!

Yes, and I noticed Dave Brubeck's "Take five" during the video ref decision, though the bald clown referred to it as "Take That"!!
The bewigged one did put him right however, still at least he recognised (or was told) that it was Dave Brubeck.
Rather impressive on the part of the stadium to play that in the home (or birthplace) of Kerry Katona & Chris Evans.

tvoc . I am on his side ,he's family and I will cheer him on every time he is doing well . I just cant think of a player that is as dirty as him . Terry Newton looks like an angel in comparison

I'm sure that Warrington will rally to play better against us the week after the WCC.
If we beat Manley, we could easily lose to the Wolves at the HJ, remember our poor performance there last year, I certainly do.
I think I'm correct in saying that the winner of the WCC has always lost their next Superleague match, no doubt tvoc will either confirm or refute that.

That's a massive tick in the refute column unfortunately.

Over the last five seasons (just as an example) the WCC Champions (All SL) have won their next SL fixture with the exception of you know who.

2008..... Leeds.....Lost to Castleford
2007..... St Helens..... Beat Bradford
2006..... Bradford..... Beat Wakefield
2005..... Leeds ..... Beat Hull
2004..... Bradford..... Beat Wigan

Tony Smith for coach <of Wire> from start of next season perhaps?

No he didnt, he was struggling to get up, yes using his forearm with intent, but none connected, he could have induced a fight, but didnt. He wanted a quick ptb, whats he meant to do just lie there until cats player got off of him?

I should know better than to listen to my son!!
Thanks for being so polite.