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| So on Sky tonight Justin Morgan was very gracious in defeat <:s>
We need to consider ourselves very fortunate that we got the rub of the green, what with starting with a depleted side, losing a handful of players to injury throughout the game, going down to 12 men at a crucial stage of the game and getting absolutely caned in the penalty count
I'm not overly sure what Morgans gripe was exactly. Any ideas?
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| Quote ="RescuedBlue"So on Sky tonight Justin Morgan was very gracious in defeat <:s>
We need to consider ourselves very fortunate that we got the rub of the green, what with starting with a depleted side, losing a handful of players to injury throughout the game, going down to 12 men at a crucial stage of the game and getting absolutely caned in the penalty count
I'm not overly sure what Morgans gripe was exactly. Any ideas?'"
Simple.He doesn't know a knock on when he sees one.
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| Webster's disallowed try maybe?
Plus I thought we were fortunate to get another set of 6 that led to our 1st try.
The ball seemed to me to hit Aizue rather than him making a play for it.
BUT if HKR's passing had been bnetter they may have had 2 more tries in the 1st half. That wasn't the ref's fault.
Morgan did say that it will even itself out over the course of the season.
On the other hand Bentham seemed determined to find us offside where he overlooked their trangressions. Better in my view to give leeway to both sides otherwise we end up like last week, what was it 11 penalties in the 1st 20 minutes?
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| I thought it especially funny when he was talking about "Benifit of the doubt" for the rightfully disallowed try.
NO Justin, there was no DOUBT it was a knock on.........
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| 50/50 decision. Tonight we got the rub of the green.
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| Quote ="TDR"50/50 decision. Tonight we got the rub of the green.'"
Win some/lose some
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Webster's disallowed try maybe?
Plus I thought we were fortunate to get another set of 6 that led to our 1st try.
The ball seemed to me to hit Aizue rather than him making a play for it.
BUT if HKR's passing had been bnetter they may have had 2 more tries in the 1st half. That wasn't the ref's fault.
Morgan did say that it will even itself out over the course of the season.
On the other hand Bentham seemed determined to find us offside where he overlooked their trangressions. Better in my view to give leeway to both sides otherwise we end up like last week, what was it 11 penalties in the 1st 20 minutes?'"
Oh, don't get me wrong, I was being kind of sarcastic in my initial post!!
He was miffed at Websters knock on. However only him and Stevo thought it was a try from the SKY team (and no doubt 90% of people watching at home)
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he hadn't seen a clear replay.
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| Nice that we won...particularly for those near us who sang about Bailey going home in a coffin. Hope they enjoyed the first of a few losses at home.....
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| Quote ="TDR"50/50 decision. Tonight we got the rub of the green.'"
Where do you feel we got the rub of the green?
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| personally, if was was a KR supporter, I would've felt slightly agreeved at not having the Webster no try awarded. I think on another night, given a different video ref, that one could've stood.
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| we could start with the "ball played man" in the lead up to our first try?
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"we could start with the "ball played man" in the lead up to our first try?'"
When you see the 1st replay from behind the sticks aizue clearly steps with his right boot it's just on the 2nd replay which doesn't show the whole picture by the way that it looks a harsh call on rovers.
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| Quote ="RescuedBlue"So on Sky tonight Justin Morgan was very gracious in defeat <:s>
We need to consider ourselves very fortunate that we got the rub of the green, what with starting with a depleted side, losing a handful of players to injury throughout the game, going down to 12 men at a crucial stage of the game and getting absolutely caned in the penalty count
I'm not overly sure what Morgans gripe was exactly. Any ideas?'"
You try bending the rules you get caned, if Sinfield is persistantly offside he should get persistantly penalised, which tonight for a change he did.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"we could start with the "ball played man" in the lead up to our first try?'"
Thats probably the only poor call against Hull KR all game though. And to be fair, Morgan was more aggrieved at the Webster no try. Which was the right decision.
I'm struggling to see what else there was
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| Quote ="Lance Cobra"You try bending the rules you get caned, if Sinfield is persistantly offside he should get persistantly penalised, which tonight for a change he did.'"
Even the clueless ones on SKY pointed out that Leeds getting penalised for not having two feet on the line was pedantic to say the least. And that if it was implemented properly it would cause havoc in the game and ruin matches
It would be like a referee turning round and giving a penalty for feeding at the scrum.
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| Quote ="Lance Cobra"You try bending the rules you get caned, if Sinfield is persistantly offside he should get persistantly penalised, which tonight for a change he did.'"
No qualms there but when both sides are offending and only 1 gets caned it gets annoying.
H-T-H.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"No qualms there but when both sides are offending and only 1 gets caned it gets annoying.
H-T-H.'"
I'll watch the SKY version tomorrow and make my mind up, maybe Sinfield makes it look more obvious than most!!
H-T-H too.
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| TBH I wouldn't really say that any of the penalties given against us were incorrect.
The only question is whether HKR were offending as well. But as Sky, like everyone else, follows the play there's no way of knowing whether we were doing anything differently from them.
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| I know Stevo and Eddie don't like to talk about the other code but I'm surprised when they were debating Webster's no try that no-one suggested copying the way the referee refers decisions to the video referee in that sometimes he will ask if there is any reason why he should not give the try.
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| As for the second set of 6 leading up to Ablett's try, i seem to recall the kick was very early in the tackle count and that the try came only a few plays after the kick so you might have even sneaked that try in without the ref's call!
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| Quote ="*jonny*"As for the second set of 6 leading up to Ablett's try, i seem to recall the kick was very early in the tackle count and that the try came only a few plays after the kick so you might have even sneaked that try in without the ref's call!'"
I was thinking that too but wiping the tackle count clean changes the mentality of both the attacking and defending sides.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"When you see the 1st replay from behind the sticks aizue clearly steps with his right boot it's just on the 2nd replay which doesn't show the whole picture by the way that it looks a harsh call on rovers.'"
You're spot on. Just watching it again and yep, Aizue moves his right leg towards the ball. Correct decision, another set of 6.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"TBH I wouldn't really say that any of the penalties given against us were incorrect.
The only question is whether HKR were offending as well. But as Sky, like everyone else, follows the play there's no way of knowing whether we were doing anything differently from them.'" You didn't need to see it. The ref could clearly be heard on a number of occasions warning KR players about not making the ten, not having 2 feet behind the line when defending. When Leeds committed such offenses it was zero tolerance time. When HKR did them it was a chat on the run. I don't care what policy refs adopt but would like them to adopt the same for both sides.
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| Quote ="FoxyRhino"copying the way the referee refers decisions to the video referee in that sometimes he will ask if there is any reason why he should not give the try.'"
What difference would that have made in this instance?
The correct decision would still have been, 'no try' due to Webster knocking on with his left hand.
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| Quote ="(Broken) Time Bandit"Nice that we won...particularly for those near us who sang about Bailey going home in a coffin. Hope they enjoyed the first of a few losses at home.....'"
You forget the 'Bailey's In A Coma' chant too. Given one of the main protagonists was seen walking out before the end towing a couple of kids with him, you've really got to think about the sort of environment they're being raised up in ?
Sadly, some Leeds fans thought fit to lower themselves by singing something fairly unpleasant back in response, but not without some provocation.
Least we forget there was the resident racist, laughably spewing forth his bile against the black players in his OWN team.
So, congratulations for excelling on several points :
1) Super League's most effective stewards .... Lads, you're being paid to do a job, its not some lame excuse to watch the game at the front on a little seat in an orange jacket. If we could hear it, you could hear it. Proactive, rather than reactive ?
2) In the North Stand, perhaps the most dangerous and over-priced stand in the league .... ? That all wooden boarding is totally safe when exposed to the rain, with no danger of slipping or falling. No .... None whatsoever.
3) For being up there with your cross-city rivals in an ability to sink to the lowest depths, before tonight, I honestly thought there was only one problem team in SL from Hull ... Maybe I am mistaken ?
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