We all know that a team from fifth has never won it before but I wonder when (or indeed if) a team has won it without having a single player in the dream team? Or a single player recognised in the super league awards?

The Dream Team aspect to your question is simple enough to answer.

1996: St Helens (League - =#FF0000Wigan) - 5 (=#FF00006)
1997: Bradford (League - =#FF0000London) - 5 (=#FF00002)
1998: Wigan (=#FF0000Leeds) - 6 (=#FF00003)
1999: St Helens (=#FF0000Bradford) - 2 (=#FF00002)
2000: St Helens (=#FF0000Wigan) - 3 (=#FF00006)
2001: Bradford (=#FF0000Wigan) - 2 (=#FF00007)
2002: St Helens (=#FF0000Bradford) - 4 (=#FF00003)
2003: Bradford (=#FF0000Wigan) - 2 (=#FF00005)
2004: Leeds (=#FF0000Bradford) - 5 (=#FF00001)
2005: Bradford (=#FF0000Leeds) - 1 (=#FF00004)
2006: St Helens (=#FF0000Hull) - 5 (=#FF00001)
2007: Leeds (=#FF0000St Helens) - 4 (=#FF00003)
2008: Leeds (=#FF0000St Helens) - 5 (=#FF00005)
2009: Leeds (=#FF0000St Helens) - 4 (=#FF00001)
2010: Wigan (=#FF0000St Helens) - 4 (=#FF40003)
2011: Leeds (=#FF0000St Helens) - 0 (=#FF00002)

So Leeds become the first Grand Finalists (let alone winners) to do so without gaining recognition for any of it's players via Dream Team selection. It's a team sport though and there is no 'i' in team.

Can't help you with the SL awards.

In the five Super league title-winning years, no Leeds player or coach has received an individual honour at the awards night.

Quite incredible really...

Award winners in that time:

2004
Man of Steel: Andy Farrell (Wigan Warriors)
Players' Player of the Year: Andy Farrell (Wigan Warriors)
Coach of the Year: Shane McNally (Wakefield Trinity Wildcats)
Young Player of the Year: Shaun Briscoe (Hull FC)

2007
Man of Steel: James Roby (St Helens)
Players' Player of the Year: Trent Barrett (Wigan Warriors)
Coach of the Year: Daniel Anderson (St Helens)
Young Player of the Year: Sam Burgess (Bradford Bulls)

2008
Man of Steel: James Graham (St Helens)
Coach of the Year: Mick Potter (Catalan Dragons)
Young Player of the Year: Joe Westerman (Castleford Tigers)

2009
Man of Steel: Brett Hodgson (Huddersfield Giants)
Coach of the Year: Nathan Brown (Huddersfield Giants)
Young Player of the Year: Sam Tomkins (Wigan Warriors)

2011
Man of Steel: Rangi Chase (Castleford Tigers)
Coach of the Year: Trent Robinson (Catalan Dragons)
Young Player of the Year: Jonny Lomax (St Helens)

Screw em. Screw the lot of em.

They can keep lauding players and teams who win nothing, and we'll keep winning titles.

Well said that man.

Damn right. Great post!!! It's an astonishing fact.. for me it shows there's always an anti Leeds agenda from a lot involved in the game. But as you say... screw em all.

Fans of other clubs are jealous to feck of Leeds success over recent years, and I love it

the persons responsible for awarding these rugby league accolades can take their individual awards and shove them up their agenda driven persons' ar5e5

the rhinos surely will take these team awards that really matter over those individual ones i'm sure although if sinny never wins a m.o.s award or even gets a nomination?

I don't think theres any agenda, I just think we have so many specials players in the team, and we are such a [iteam[/i individuals have never stood out in the same way others have in poorer teams.

Put brett hogdson in this leeds from 2009 and theres no way he wins MoS IMO.

Hate to put a dampener on things but I think the lack of players in the Dream Team is more down to our poor year than any agenda. Hall should have been in for me & JJB had half a chance. Sinfield had no chase at 6 and the same with Buderus at 9.

As for previous MOS - in 2004 I'd have given it to Vainikolo, 2007 - Barrett, 2008 & 9 - Graham, 2011 - Roby. The only one who had a chance for me in those years was McGuire in '04.

Rather than showing an anti-Leeds bias I think it shows how many different people have contributed to our success over the years. Our TEAM always really comes to the fore

I would just really like to know what Kevin Sinfield has to do to be recognised. Captained his team to five grand final wins and nothing. That's just not right to me.

How do you want him to be recognised?

The only year he was close to MOS form was 2005 and even then he wasn't an obvious choice by any means. I'm sure he has notched up a few Dream Team selections for what it's worth.

The man is a living legend in a Leeds shirt, has shown glimpses of his talent in international RL but is far from the best player in the competition. I'm sure he's happy with his 5 winners rings. I bet Rangi Chase would swap accolades with him

4 - 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009

Dream Team Number 82 and all in the loose forward position.

__________

Most Dream Team selections with 8 is ?

Never really thought about it like this but I think you could be right. The MoS is usually awarded to the player that has stood out in at team. Perfect example is this years winner - Chase has been by far the best player in the his team this year and has stood out by a country mile.

When everyone is playing to the same standard, which the Leeds players seem to have been doing all season then no single player has stood head and shoulders above the rest.

Great post!

I must admit though that a team who has won 5 of the last 8 super leagues its a joke we haven't won more individual awards but I've always seen the Rhinos as a team, no one seems to stand out!

Super League era? Did it start in 1996?

Peacock?
Senior?
Sculthorpe?
Farrell?

I imagine the latter pair beat each other meaning not that many in total

The second part of your post explains why it's not a joke!

As I explained above, if there were better individual players it is not a joke that a Leeds player didn't win man of steel

That may be, but TS didn't even scoop coach of the year in 2004! Don't know what else he could have done that year to earn that award.

The players you've mentioned are all credible winners, but as someone has said Sinfield rarely seems to even get a mention.

I'll give you Tony Smith. I don't think our coach was the best coach in any other year - at least not when the awards were given out.

Sinfield shouldn't get that many mentions as MOS - he has rarely been Leeds' "best" player. 2005 was the nearest he came IMO

for leeds rhinos -Kevin Sinfield 2000-2011 other clubs dislike jealousy ,Read Lewis Jones Leeds rlfc 1952-1964 nothing changes .They all hate Leeds ,They all hate Leeds and I do mean them all.

Sinfield wouldn't want an individual award. He believes in the power of the workers' collective.

Peacock?

The awards are handed before the real heros step forward. Personally I think that there were very few dream team candidates from Leeds, but I could imagine a situation where player A and player B are pretty close, but then player A wins it due to a massive performance in the play offs

That's pretty remarkable isn't it when you put it like that.