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| It’s awesome that we’ve got the most entertaining and best fullbacks in the world up against each other on Saturday. I have to say I’ve been more entertained by Sam Tomkins offerings throughout super league and the four nations that I have by Billy’s efforts in the four nations so far.
Slater always has a fantastic game against England but let’s hope that Tomkins has a better one than him this Saturday!
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| Sam will need a big game with the RFU watching if he's to tie up the deal with Union that he wants so dearly.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"It’s awesome that we’ve got the most entertaining and best fullbacks in the world up against each other on Saturday. I have to say I’ve been more entertained by Sam Tomkins offerings throughout super league and the four nations that I have by Billy’s efforts in the four nations so far.
Slater always has a fantastic game against England but let’s hope that Tomkins has a better one than him this Saturday!'"
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Sam will need a big game with the RFU watching if he's to tie up the deal with Union that he wants so dearly.'"
You wouldn't want Sam to go would you ?
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| He's an arrogant, narcissistic, egocentric, self-admiring little tw*t with an over-inflated self worth.
Not a huge fan of Tomkins either.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"He's an arrogant, narcissistic, egocentric, self-admiring little tw*t with an over-inflated self worth.
Not a huge fan of Tomkins either.
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Either of them would walk into any side in their respective hemispheres.
I'd say their self-worth is pretty much grounded in fact. I'd take either of them at Leeds in a heartbeat.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Either of them would walk into any side in their respective hemispheres.
I'd say their self-worth is pretty much grounded in fact. I'd take either of them at Leeds in a heartbeat.'"
Actually, my observation that they had an over-inflated sense of self-worth wasn't to do with which team they would/wouldn't get in to. It was to do with the fact that they're JUST A RUGBY PLAYER.
You can be the best RL player in the world (Slater IS!), and it still doesn't give you the right to have THAT chip on your shoulder.
You run around a piece of grass for other people's amusement. That's all you do. No arrogance, shoulder chips, over-inflated sense of self worth AT ALL please. Regardless of what team you could walk in to. I'm not saying they're not good at Rugby League. They are. I'm not saying I wouldn't have them at Leeds. I would. But it's JUST A GAME. It's just their job. See Kevin Sinfield for more details. A little humility goes a long way.
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| Blimey. Get a load of her.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Actually, my observation that they had an over-inflated sense of self-worth wasn't to do with which team they would/wouldn't get in to. It was to do with the fact that they're JUST A RUGBY PLAYER.
You can be the best RL player in the world (Slater IS!), and it still doesn't give you the right to have THAT chip on your shoulder.
You run around a piece of grass for other people's amusement. That's all you do. No arrogance, shoulder chips, over-inflated sense of self worth AT ALL please. Regardless of what team you could walk in to. I'm not saying they're not good at Rugby League. They are. I'm not saying I wouldn't have them at Leeds. I would. But it's JUST A GAME. It's just their job. See Kevin Sinfield for more details. A little humility goes a long way.'"
What the f*ck are you blabbing on about?
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| Quote ="Wilbred T Pricklepop"What the f*ck are you blabbing on about?'"
This. (I'm cool me!)
Getting on for 2 1/2 thousand posts in just over 1 year!...what a waste.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Blimey. Get a load of her.
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| everybody calm down count down from five nice and slowly. now dont make things up its just a question but what has made you think tomkins is arrogant? it started off as he's a cheat. I will tell you why he isn't arrogant but just a jack the lad enjoying hes rugby.. many of you may know or not sam does a lot of charity work (milly dowler cause), rugby development with st pats (in hes spare time) and on he's twitter will allways answer charity or birthday requests. Even in his interviews he is allways down to earth just actually listen to them. To me if he was as arrogant as he is being portrayed on here then why would he bother he must be too good for anybody.
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| Quote ="dubairl"everybody calm down count down from five nice and slowly. now dont make things up its just a question but what has made you think tomkins is arrogant? it started off as he's a cheat. I will tell you why he isn't arrogant but just a jack the lad enjoying hes rugby.. many of you may know or not sam does a lot of charity work (milly dowler cause), rugby development with st pats (in hes spare time) and on he's twitter will allways answer charity or birthday requests. Even in his interviews he is allways down to earth just actually listen to them. To me if he was as arrogant as he is being portrayed on here then why would he bother he must be too good for anybody.'"
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"the Two fingered gesture'"
That isn't arrogance that was allowing emotions to get the better of him. Lee smith challenge cup celebration in front of the wigan fans that could be seen as arrogance but i would see it as an overflow of emotions.
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| Sam Tomkins is by far the best player in Super League at this time. It would be a shame to lose him to Union but I can't see a way of keeping him unless the RFL do the right thing and let Wigan (and all other teams) discount a portion of one player's wages on the Salary Cap (Marquee Player).
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| Slater is 3 times the player rat boy is.
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| Quote ="Rhino gaz"Slater is 3 times the player rat boy is.'"
That might be...but he is still by far one of the best in SL. Whatever you might dislike about him that fact cannot be denied.
He and Hall were about the only ones that could displace any in the Aussie first 17.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Either of them would walk into any side in their respective hemispheres.
I'd say their self-worth is pretty much grounded in fact. I'd take either of them at Leeds in a heartbeat.'"
Agreed. Both tremendous players and aggresive competitors.
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| Tompkins was immense today and really took it to (and from) the Aussies. We just can't let club loyalties blind us to the fact that as a game we can't lose such prodigious talents to the dark side.
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| Quote ="Jamie B"Tompkins was immense today and really took it to (and from) the Aussies. We just can't let club loyalties blind us to the fact that as a game we can't lose such prodigious talents to the dark side.'"
I'd boooo him but you spelt his name wrong.......
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| Tomkins was excellent today. Great to see.
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| I thought the whole team performed well today. There was a time in the first half when I thought England really had a belief they could win. Hall's first try was simply sensational! If that had been in the NRL we wouldn't have heard the last of it. I really believe that If England can beat the Kiwis then they have a great chance to beat Australia and win the 4 nations. I didn't expect England to win at Wembley but was surprised at how well they played. I didn't think they could beat Australia twice but I think they can beat them once. A win in the final would do very nicely indeed. After the injustice of the sending off and try that were not given I am so fired up to back the England boys. I thought Peakcock was immense when he came back on when clearly injured and led by example. With a full team England can win this! Lets get right behind them.
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| First time have seen tomkins the kid can play they are going mad on him over here in aus would like to see him play in the Nrl just to see him play week in week out hope he doesn't go to the dark side
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| After yesterday I reckon a lot of G 'n' T's will have been spilt as the old farts at RFU headquarters start the ball rolling to sign him up for Rah Rah duty
Far too much money on offer for Ratboy to turn down
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| the kick for touch line out driving maul ruck box kick for touch line out driving maul ruck peanlty kick at goal suit a player who thrives on expansive open running with a step that beats a player where with 13 men you can have a gap but with 15 players he would have a 6ft8 lock smashing into him with a huge pile-on getting raked for being on the wrong side.
he needs to think hard and long. in RL he is world class and would live long in the memories.
in union he would be no more than a good player with flashes of brilliance and sadly forgotten. the only english winger /fullback player pre 1980 i can recall is David duckham but ask me about RL is a different matter
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