Hope you’re right mate but I just can’t see it. Saints if it was at home.. maybe.. no chance v Wigan, Warrington will need to have a big off day on their own patch 

Chris , It is hard to understand the World you live in but i am sure it must be a Happy place and better than the real World i live in .

Chris , It is hard to understand the World you live in but i am sure it must be a Happy place and better than the real World i live in .

That performance was a continuation of the last 20 mins vs castleford. Sloppy. For all the talk of ‘we need to learn lessons from that’ looks like we learnt nothing. That was as poor as a Catalans performance I have seen in a long time as well. 


I like Brad Arthur and like what he has done to the defensive side of the team. My worry is that the attacking game plan is purely to try and beat the pack with hard running and effort. When we come up against a big pack that we clearly can’t dominate then we have no alternative. 


We have a prop rotation that is built on graft and Lisone who can do two hard carries and then does nothing for the rest of his 10 minute stint. We have a spine that all have ability but more often drift in and out of games and are inconsistent. Our best half was Sinfield yesterday. 


Gannon, ECW and Lumb are the players who come out with any credit. 


Was it Agar who tried Handley as a centre for a while or was it BMac?

A very frustrating 80 mins. Don't think anybody has mentioned the atrocious weather that goes a long way to explaining the errors and lack of general quality for both sides. While I can forgive some of the crisp packet passing I can't forgive the penalties we conceded when we finally had them coming off their own line in the 2nd half. Thought Jenkins carried the ball hard and straight and Gannon and the two wingers also did well. The rest, if selected, need to be much better next week. Can anybody tell me why when two me were carded over very little, they didn't even look at the tackle that resulted in Frawley's impression of Bambi?

Not impossible. I can't see us beating wigan but saints look at bit iffy and are under some pressure.  Wire are beatable too. But it's nailed on that we'll back up a couple of decent performances with the usual limp rubbish even if that does come about. Even Arthur is proving incapable of driving out the complacency that a couple of half decent showings brings out in this group.