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| [quote="cheekydiddles":1v5c83bn]I think one or both of Lisone and Frawley will be gone end of this season[/quote:1v5c83bn]
I hope that these 2 players prove me wrong this season,But I'd get rid of both of these players as they're a total waste of quota spots
Frawley has a very limited skillset for an overseas half back (Sneyd is miles better by comparison to UK players)
Jack Sinfield is also waiting in the wings,But IMO he needs a full season playing at a top club in the Championship in 2025 to help his development, rather than getting the odd game for Leeds.
Although whilst considering overseas half backs, I've always thought that Jackson Hastings would eventually sign for us,Perhaps in 2026?
Lisone is nothing more than a flat track bully and I would drive him to the airport tomorrow.
"IF" he gets another contract then i will be astounded as he's a total waste of quota and cap space
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| Unless we see a lot more from them this year I'd agree on Frawley and Lisone. Neither of them fit the bill for a top 4 club. In Frawley's case he might go better with more structure, but he is so very limited and lacking in dynamism. Lisone is just a very poor quality quota player.
I don't agree with not moving to replace Sivo. We won't be able to exactly replace him, but he would have been one of our highest paid players, which would reflect his importance to Arthur's gameplan. Being without a big presence like that for the odd game from the usual injuries is one thing, but nobody else in the squad can do what Sivo would have brought alongside Hall.
Arthur may only be here for this season, maybe next. He'll be desperate for us to give the comp as good a shake as we can this year. Deciding not to replace a marquee player is not supporting him to do that. Nor is it - IMO - sending a clear message to fans and the rest of the league that we now mean business. Not bringing in a high quality replacement says that for all the talk we're still content to muddle through. I understand the contractual issues etc, but we've seemingly drawn a line in the sand regarding mediocrity.
Not sure why Roberts/Hooley got brought up. Smith didn't sign them to be starters. He signed them to add depth, which was woefully lacking when he arrived. Its not Roberts' fault that he ended up playing out of position for the one-man injury crisis that was Fusitu'a. Or that he wasn't a star - he wasn't expected to be. We don't need those sorts of signings now as we have a bunch of younger players ready or very nearly ready for a decent crack at first team. To be fair to Smith, we had no depth at all when he arrived.
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| [quote="Once were Loiners":3j3rnip5]Unless we see a lot more from them this year I'd agree on Frawley and Lisone. Neither of them fit the bill for a top 4 club. In Frawley's case he might go better with more structure, but he is so very limited and lacking in dynamism. Lisone is just a very poor quality quota player.
I don't agree with not moving to replace Sivo. We won't be able to exactly replace him, but he would have been one of our highest paid players, which would reflect his importance to Arthur's gameplan. Being without a big presence like that for the odd game from the usual injuries is one thing, but nobody else in the squad can do what Sivo would have brought alongside Hall.
Arthur may only be here for this season, maybe next. He'll be desperate for us to give the comp as good a shake as we can this year. Deciding not to replace a marquee player is not supporting him to do that. Nor is it - IMO - sending a clear message to fans and the rest of the league that we now mean business. Not bringing in a high quality replacement says that for all the talk we're still content to muddle through. I understand the contractual issues etc, but we've seemingly drawn a line in the sand regarding mediocrity.
Not sure why Roberts/Hooley got brought up. Smith didn't sign them to be starters. He signed them to add depth, which was woefully lacking when he arrived. Its not Roberts' fault that he ended up playing out of position for the one-man injury crisis that was Fusitu'a. Or that he wasn't a star - he wasn't expected to be. We don't need those sorts of signings now as we have a bunch of younger players ready or very nearly ready for a decent crack at first team. To be fair to Smith, we had no depth at all when he arrived.[/quote:3j3rnip5]
I agree with all of that, but given that it now seems that Salford are spared, who would you sign?
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| You don't sign players to "send a message". You sign them to improve the team. If someone fits that bill, and if the budget can be made available (not a sure thing given how much money the club loses, this is going to be £150/£200k/whatever over the planned spend) then yes definitely go out and get them.
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| I think you do need to send a message sometimes - to fans, sponsors, and at this point in time, Brad Arthur. What signal does it send him if he's asked to 'make do' without one of the marquee players he personally went after? It certainly doesn't tell him that the cub is backing him to the utmost. I do agree entirely that a replacement should strengthen the side - we're talking about replacing one of our highest earners. Any replacement has to be the sort of player that can make an impact.
AC - I've no idea who we should go for. Someone mentioned Ravalawa. He'd be the closest straight swap, albeit a bit of a downgrade on Sivo from what I've seen. But would he come for one season? Would we want him to do that? Perhaps a better bet would be to look round the Qld or NSW Cup and see if there's a big winger that would be interested if it gave them exposure at a higher level. Or maybe not a winger at all.
Either way its a big challenge to get anyone at this stage of the season. Perhaps the best thing of all to do is wait and see if someone falls out of favour in the NRL who might be willing to come over for a chunk of one season?
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