I'm sure if you bought a South Stand ticket you could go in. Just as I can no longer go in the South Stand with my Paddock season ticket, unless I get a ticket for that area. If you buy a ticket for the Western Terrace that is where you can stand.

It's not solely about the GF though is it because we lost 5 of our last 7 as soon as Senior got injured compared to 10 wins from the previous 11.

And I like most agree that the better teams were better then than today as the league has levelled out (the lower teams aren't as poor). The point is you can't properly compared the standard in 2017 using a game between two teams both missing 7/8 starters against a period that didn't see anything like those injury numbers. Just one injury affected Leeds badly (Saints didn't reach the GF too after Newton took out a couple of their guys including Long) so what would the standard of 2005 era been f those top teams were regularly playing minus 6/7/8 first teamers.

You have managed to disprove your own argument once again.

Your argument is that SL is better now because there is more strength in depth throughout the league. Your argument in favour of this is that in 2005 Leeds lost a GB international centre and replaced him with a Queensland state of origin and Australian international centre and it wasn't enough.

You further compounds your nonsense by highlighting St Helens losing quality players like Long and Sculthorpe and replacing them with Wilkin and Roby also weren't good enough.

Oh shut up with your usual babbling nonsense after you've read what you've want to read to have an argument.

Not once have I said SL is better now but you've just accused me of it. My argument is you can't properly compare the standards because of the very varying injury numbers teams had.

Read that last sentence repeatedly instead of making up something else in your head because I can't be bothered getting into one of your arguments because you misread and misinterpreted the point being made, that's your failing not mine.

ThePointscorer tries to shift the goalposts again.

here we go again