In mcdermotts press conference on the rhinos website, I think I'm right in saying he said that Bailey and S. Ward will be missing out this week.

He did, but good sides overcome poor refereeing and tonight we didn't even get close.

He is as poor as I remember and has been for 3 years but that still doesn't excuse our performance

Completely agree don't think he went into it to hurt anyone, thought he was going to kick the ball. But still cannot go in with the boot in that situation

I'm not sure Child pinged us once for holding down, which, when it's Child, must mean we can't have been holding down nearly enough. Wire's consistently fast play-the balls won the match as much as anything else.

I agree, though I'm sure I remember a Leeds try ruled out by the VR a few years ago away at Saints, IIRC Sinfield? was going over the line and had the ball kicked out of his hands by Wellens.

Tbh I think this kind of incident has been coming with refs and VR's not penalising tackling with the legs by players for years.

So you are saying had we got some more decisions our way we would have won?

The answer is no.

That's rugby, you either get the rub of the green or you don't. We've won more than our fair share of matches in the past despite really poor refereeing and at the same time we have been really robbed by the ref in the past. Last nights standard wouldn't fall into that category. By Child's standards I thought he had an average game.

Besides the whole point of me defending the ref was I didn't want people hiding behind the 'if it wasn't for the ref' excuse, when clearly we didn't have enough about us to compete with Wire.