He is one player, that is all, there are loads of good players in Super League and I for one would rather hear from some others, as for going down under and not being lost to Rugby League, I don't care, as shown by yesterdays introduction to the Wigan team, he seems to only care for himself.

when did Wilkin join and when did he get into the first team?

Not entirely sure how this thread turned into one about Jon Wilkin. But I quite like him as a pundit. He knows the game, articulates his views well and is a lot better than a number of the current "regular" staff. I think there's a career there for him when he retires. I alsd agree with those praising Jon Wells.

While he hasn't done well in some GFs (and I didn't like his whinging afterwards once or twice, but meh, bygones) he has won trophies (he did win the GF in 2006, lest we forget), and I would have given him the Lance Todd in 2006 when he was outstanding in the CC final.

I thought it was you. But I couldn't see any crude innuendo or talk of cake so I thought I was missing something.

Not quite I was talking about Wilkin, a pussy-of sorts.