So, looking at next year then we have:-

Full backs:
1 Richard Owen - WG, FB
2 Jordan Tansey - FB, WG

Wingers:
3 Kirk Dixon - WG, CE
4 Justin Carney - WG
5 James Clare - WG, FB

Centres:
6 Michael Shenton - CE
7 Jake Webster - CE, WG
8 Jordan Thompson - CE, SR

Half backs:
9 Rangi Chase - SO, SH, HK, FB
10 Jamie Ellis - SH, SO

Hookers:
11 Daryl Clark - HK
12 Adam Milner - HK, SO

Props:
13 Jake Emmitt - PR
14 Craig Huby - PR
15 Jonathan Walker - PR
16 Nathan Massey - PR

Back rowers:
17 Grant Millington - SR, PR
18 Lee Gilmour - SR, CE
19 Oliver Holmes - SR, LF
20 Weller Hauraki - SR

Utility:
21 Josh Atkinson - WG, CE
22 Ben Johnson - SO, SH
23 Dan Fleming - PR, SR
24 Charlie Martin - SR, PR

I have coloured in red those I'm unsure about. The Chase to Hull rumours won't go away, I think Mathers will stop at Wakey and I don't know what will happen with Nash and Mitchell. So potentially a squad of 19 to 23 with an additional 4 or 5 youngsters to make the numbers up (up to now).

Feel free to suggest corrections and I will adjust accordingly (when official).

I'm not even sure this squad is as good yet as the one we had this year

Disagree, the fact that we have 3 centres, 2 of international pedigree is a total step up compared to last year.

I was going to say that we are stronger in some areas but overall I just think that its not quite as good.

I think that we have brought in some decent players but lets not forget we have lost amongst others Orr, Ferres, Youngquest and McGoldrick who have been our match winners in previous times. We may well now have new matchwinners but I think we could be a little bit short of where we need to be to really kick on into playoff contention.

Just my opinion and I can see why others would disagree.

Well i hope at least one of the players in the red goes, that being mitchell he is Woeful. Steve Gash needs to do one too. How these players get contracts is beyond me..

Not saying we'll be in the play offs but I'm confident that we'll be a damn sight better next season. Chase has missed roughly 1/3 of league games this season, Ellis will provide a better kicking game then Danny, I think Millo will go better next year as he will have a pre-season under his belt, Gilmour a better version of Stuey Jones, Wellar an out & out replacement for Ferres, some good some bad, & JC the obvious like for like for NY, although obviously a bit of an unknown quantity due to injuries.

Added in some extra positions for people. Add in two more signings and we've got the makings of a decent squad.

If Basil can get the two NRL forwards he's after and a utility back to replace Mathers then I think we'll have a far more competitive squad than 2012. Maybe also sign Mitchell for numbers.

I'd rather us sign Phil Mitchell for next season then sign Lee. His mate from Wire would be a good signing to add depth to the wing.

Williams would be a good signing. I've heard Bulls are looking at him. Has he been made available by Wire ?

I think hs contract expires this season and he was not offered / turned down (not sure which) a new deal. Apart from the Wakefield game, he went very well for Cas and I'd like to think we'd be in for him if he was available. A back line of Owen, Williams, Shenton, Webster, Carney looks top eight material.

Owen is a turnstile in defence , you need intelligent players in key position i'm not even sure i want him in the first 13.

Owen is up & down, to flip the coin, he made a mug of Greg Eden (the english billy slater) darn the lane. For me he needs to know where he's playing & persist with him there

Keep Steve Nash a good friend of Basil Brush.

Thanks Kinley. Good luck with that.

2 more released by Bulls. Joseph could be useful. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... t/?ref=rss

2 more released by Bulls. Joseph could be useful. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... t/?ref=rss

Quote ="Tigerade"2 more released by Bulls. Joseph could be useful. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... t/?ref=rss'" Would rather us try to sign Manase Manuokafoa, Danny Addy and Pryce. Those three, along with one or two loan signings, would give us a better look than the 2012 squad.

Quote ="Tigerade"2 more released by Bulls. Joseph could be useful. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... t/?ref=rss'" Would rather us try to sign Manase Manuokafoa, Danny Addy and Pryce. Those three, along with one or two loan signings, would give us a better look than the 2012 squad.

We are not signing anyone else unless we have any more departures.

Wow, we are in for another fun season then

Whose the 24 players we alledged have and are the 6 academy players the youngster we signed to full time training last week?

I have changed the original squad details for 2013 to reflect last nights statement. The 6 promoted academy players are not included so we are looking at 24 plus 6 academy training with the 1st team.

Not exactly inspiring is it to see we have 19 senior pro's, 5 youngster's (Clare, Atkinson, Martin, Fleming, Johnson) with no more than 10 first team games between them and 6 school leavers. I know we failed with Steve Nash but surely there are a few players in the Championship (no one mention Brierley please!) who could strengthen our squad?

I thought we might have got Ellis before Fev did from Wakey.

But hookers not really a position that we are lacking in with Clark, Milner and at a push Chase to cover 9.