Mods - Do we really need this here on RL Fans... again? They have the whole of Casforum to assassinate my character if they wish!

Can we keep this like Bonzo please... sensible?

You would think the owners of Xscape would be chuffed to have thousands of potential customers in the area every 2 weeks?.

Money talks in this day and age,hope a comprimise can be sorted quickly

Better still, why dont you take your ball home and go and sit next to Ferguson and say nowt?

How about we all cut out the petty squabbling and keep the thread on topic? Failing that I'll just use the lock button on this and any newly created threads on the subject if people can't be civilised about it.

If you read the letter mate they are but the point (as I said on the VT thread linked above) is about dead-time and people not being able to park and use Xscape when the place is half empty for 2 hours + while people go over the bridge. Their car park runs at near capacity for the majority of the weekend already so they don't actual gain anything unless these extra visitors to the game can park somewhere and there is real potential that in actual fact they take more money on nights when a match is NOT on an lose money when there is because people take up space while being off-site for 2 hours blocking other people getting in. You hit the nail on the head - they are only potential customers but if you can't accommodate them, they remain just that - potential!

The planning issue is that they have reduced the number of spaces from the outline approval to current reserved matters. If they hadn't done that Xscape might still object but then it would be a little late to do so! As it is, theirs is a very valid objection that now needs to be dealt with or take the risk on the planners siding with the club/Waystone.

Having read the letter I can't disagree with any of the points made - Xscape car park does get very busy on the weekends and so its not as if supporters parking their cars there are doing so in a space that would otherwise remain empty.

I'm just disappointed Xscape have only raised their objections now. Then again, if Cas have altered the planned number of parking spaces included with the stadium from that detailed in the outline planning application they (Cas) have only got themselves to blame!

I wonder if we could offer some sort of compromise by increasing our number of parking spaces and offering them to Xscape/Junction 32 for use in their busy periods ie xmas, january sales etc etc

Castigers/Ramsdens reduce the number of spaces by 325 in this application.

Xscape have 400 overflow spaces that none of their customers use.

Xscape may have to pay for a lease and upkeep of these spaces as they do not own the land.

Castigers take over the lease on a ready made car park for 400 spaces.

Castigers save on the cost of constructing 400 spaces

Castigers and Xscape both Happy Bunnies.

Just a thought but I may be wrong

You missed getting Xscape out of a S106 and possible planning condition... but otherwise good and very possible theory!

As I said on the other thread, what will be, will be.

Does that mean bigalf is correct then?

No, it means I'm getting sick of this whole topic and just want the frigging thing to be built now.

So why comment?

Ditto

Because I wanted to?

Must confess i didn't have time to read the letter MATE, time was at a premium before i went to work.

I don't mind being corrected if wrong,it is a bit harder to take when it comes from shameless self-opportunist masquerading as
a good samaritan...imo (best add that,before you go moaning to Bonzo again)

Can't argue with that!

Oh dear what a shame, yet another one or am I misjudging? Having read back the opening line I can understand why you thought I was having a go at you for reading or not reading the letter, I wasn't and as such I apologise if that is how it came across, I was just trying to converse with you and discuss the topic.

As for the rest, well you are entitled to your opinion and of course you, like a small minority of others you are totally wrong! It is quite hard to take when it comes from a poster who clearly only beleives what he reads on another forum but I am happy, as always, to discuss the topic yet again? Or I might just link you to the other several post about this topic and then see if you would like to apologise then?

The links might be easier, I think Bonzo and tb are getting just as sick of the topic of 'me' as I am!!! Interestingly, I get accused of being egotistical but I never bring up the subject of 'me' and 'my reasons' everyone else does! How does that work?



PS. I must confess I did indulge in slightly egotistical behaviour on the VT thread about this... but as bigalf say, you must occasionally blow your own trumpet (especially when you are correct!).

Come on cas fans give IA a break, he obviously has knowledge of the procedure etc and he is just sharing them with you.

We are all obviously frustrated at the wait for everything to start moving after the many months of waiting but lets not take our frustration out on someone who is sharing his knowledge and opinions (we've all got opinions) Lets face it if you had knowledge on the planning procedures you too would be on here sharing your knowledge.

Let get this thread back on track talking about our stadium and not to slag people off

Well said. People would do well to take your advice.

I believe that's strike 2 by the way...

April 7 for the planning application discussion according to [url=http://www.ctsc.org.uk/web/stadium-newsCTSC[/url.

Aye I got a message about it on facebook from CTSC last night. Fingers crossed...

It would appear to be formality and the only thing that could hold things up would be the parking issues raised. Even then, I would expect that the planning committee would just impose a condition of some sort on the approval. There is no point holding the whole application up over the parking issue. There is of course no urgency as such any more, other than for the bragging rites, and I am sure we will have many pages of threads on the subject... unfortunately!

I make no apologies for my scepticism but this is old news they told us this in January, and like IA says what's the point if we don't have the funding (RW words ) .