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| as a Hull fc fan i hate to say it but i do n't think you were robbed?
your team just threw it away with their lack of control inside the rovers half
the game could have been won in the first half if they'd taken half their chances.
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| I was at the game and could see the video decision on the big screen and i thought it was a knock-on.
CHURCHILL does have a point though, the records and league table will show that we lost and we can't change that fact.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"The truth is that Rovers won, that's a fact, it's you that struggles with the truth, and as for it suiting the RFL that Rovers won last night, well that would be a first.'"
we know the result numpty but almost all the rugby league world knows that game was given to rovers by two incompetant fools who obviously dont understand the rules of the game.
youre not related to ganson are you ? the similarities point that way
bye bye little lad
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| Quote ="itsalldarntlane"we know the result numpty but almost all the rugby league world knows that game was given to rovers by two incompetant fools who obviously dont understand the rules of the game.
youre not related to ganson are you ? the similarities point that way
bye bye little lad
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The same incompetant fools who missed forward passes for two of your trys. Swings and roundabouts. fwiw i said to our lass we were very lucky try was given but so were you on the forward passes
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| Quote ="itsalldarntlane"we know the result numpty but almost all the rugby league world knows that game was given to rovers by two incompetant fools who obviously dont understand the rules of the game.
youre not related to ganson are you ? the similarities point that way
bye bye little lad
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As mentioned elsewhere, Cas had their fair share of 50/50 calls go their way, result stands, off you pop, toodle pip.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"As mentioned elsewhere, Cas had their fair share of 50/50 calls go their way, result stands, off you pop, toodle pip.'"
50/50 calls my armpit
your comments show you havent seen the game like the fella before you
my fault for replying to a no mark troll
bet ya not even from the fish market too
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFBut 3 KR trys came from: Offside, obstruction & incorrect play the ball and a knock on (the actual try AND in the build up.'"
Yet never in the history of Castleford has the boot been on the other foot, take it like a man.
Wakefield lost to Saints by two tries that would almost certainly have been wiped by the Video Ref on a Sky game. So what, it's tough on us but there is no guarantee that we would have won over the 80 mins.
Saints won and nothing will change that, I'm sure over the season things will even themselves out. When that happens to Cas I do hope you will be as vociferous in your attack on the Ref and show your utmost support for the club you and the Ref robbed.
All Refs are rubbish when you lose especially tight games, have you not sussed that yet.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"The truth is that Rovers won, that's a fact, it's you that struggles with the truth, and as for it suiting the RFL that Rovers won last night, well that would be a first.'"
Rovers won because of a bad decision simple as.
You have the 2 points we dont. It's history now.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yet never in the history of Castleford has the boot been on the other foot, take it like a man.
Wakefield lost to Saints by two tries that would almost certainly have been wiped by the Video Ref on a Sky game. So what, it's tough on us but there is no guarantee that we would have won over the 80 mins.
Saints won and nothing will change that, I'm sure over the season things will even themselves out. When that happens to Cas I do hope you will be as vociferous in your attack on the Ref and show your utmost support for the club you and the Ref robbed.
All Refs are rubbish when you lose especially tight games, have you not sussed that yet.
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Go on the VT and read the posts on there, it's mainly other clubs fans saying we was hard done by not cas fans.
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| Quote ="poppys mum"Go on the VT and read the posts on there, it's mainly other clubs fans saying we was hard done by not cas fans.'"
it would seem that the people saying you were hard done by need to go and learn the rules before post rubbish! nothing wrong with the vid ref calls. the try where people are saying it wad a knock on are 100% wrong! I don't like the rule myself but it was the correct call.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"My mince pies are working fine, hand on the ball, pressure, try, get over it.
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Or alternatively he didn't!
It's all opinion of course but for mine that wasn't a try otherwise it's ok to throw the ball forward a la American football and as long as you touch it (or even if you dont! ) as it hit's the ground it's a try! Is that rugby league? Not for me it's not!
I also thought Ainscough touched the line with the ball before it popped out but I suppose this was a fifty/fifty call and some go for you, some against. Having said that, isn't the benefit of the doubt supposed to go to the attacking team?
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| Quote ="Phuzzy" Having said that, isn't the benefit of the doubt supposed to go to the attacking team?'"
It is, but we suffered that in the National Rail Final against Leigh a few years back when denied what looked like a perfect try.
Horrible feeling isn't it.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"it would seem that the people saying you were hard done by need to go and learn the rules before post rubbish! nothing wrong with the vid ref calls. the try where people are saying it wad a knock on are 100% wrong! I don't like the rule myself but it was the correct call.'"
Absolute rubbish! Just as the people saying it was definitely NOT a try are equally wrong - its purely a matter of opinion!
The video ref had to make the decision whether the players hand was in contact with the ball prior to it hitting the ground and assuming it was, did he have sufficient control of the ball. The VR decided 'yes' to both points and whilst it seems the majority of people are in disagreement with him it's his decision that counts. It isn't the 1st time a video ref has given what many perceive to be the wrong decision and it won't be the last.
For what it's worth I think one of the Cas tries came off a forward pass and another could have been disallowed for obstruction but the VR decided to let that one stand.
Personally though I'd rather not dwell on one bad decision that went against us and concentrate more on the other reasons that we failed to win. Quite simply our ball control near the Hull KR line was not good enough, neither were our final tackle kicking/passing options. A more competent side would have scored 50 points with the field position and opportunities we created.
Results in previous rounds have shown that Hull Kr are not the side they were last season and if Cas can't beat them at home it looks like we're in for a long hard season!
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| =#8040FFWatching the game again now, here's another 2 bad decisions in the space of about a minute!:
Dobson knocks on in the build up to Cockayne's try, the resulting kick off the ball is recovered by a KR player who is 20 metres offside, you see Bentham bringing the whistle to his mouth then stopping upon what can only be on the "advice" of Ganson or the RFL man in the stand telling him that they have picked KR to win this game. Webster gets tackled with his elbow on the try line, which should be a drop out, Bentham waves play on the same set on the 3rd tackle KR inside the 10 he calls Cas offside when every player is clearly onside.
Thanks to the RFL and mainly Cummings I am no longer watching this sport.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8040FF
Thanks to the RFL and mainly Cummings I am no longer watching this sport.'"
well one positive at least
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8040FFWatching the game again now, here's another 2 bad decisions in the space of about a minute!:
Dobson knocks on in the build up to Cockayne's try, the resulting kick off the ball is recovered by a KR player who is 20 metres offside, you see Bentham bringing the whistle to his mouth then stopping upon what can only be on the "advice" of Ganson or the RFL man in the stand telling him that they have picked KR to win this game. Webster gets tackled with his elbow on the try line, which should be a drop out, Bentham waves play on the same set on the 3rd tackle KR inside the 10 he calls Cas offside when every player is clearly onside.
Thanks to the RFL and mainly Cummings I am no longer watching this sport.'"
Its got nothing to do with his elbow, if the ball is over the line then its play on. Thats like saying you can score a try if your elbow touches the try line! bizarre!
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Its got nothing to do with his elbow, if the ball is over the line then its play on. Thats like saying you can score a try if your elbow touches the try line! bizarre!'"
=#8000FFThe ball was on the line too, his lower arm, including ball are on the try line, he even plays the ball on the line!
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| If so fair point.
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| Having studied the rule book today, Ive come to the conclusion that Liam Watts final try was CORRECTLY awarded. There is nothing in the rules that prevents it being given.
However, Scott Murrells was INCORRECTLY awarded, as Liam Watts made no attempt to play the ball correctly.
That said I personally feel that the word "control" should be in the laws regarding the scoring of a try. Try as I might, I cannot find it. Im open to being wrong, but thats my interpretation.
So in my view Cas were wrongly done by the match officials, who week after week stun me with their incompetance from Super League down to amatuers on a weekend. Whats is worse is the pandemic of arrogance that is rife amongst them. Zero humility at all.
BUT, before I get shot down, its not the main reason Cas lost - our errors were to blame!
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| There was another questionable referee decision for the first HKR try. The HKR forward (Watts?) was held up over the line but the referee allowed him to play the ball on the tryline (he never actually played the ball) and HKR dummy half dove over to score.
1) The play the ball should have been 10 metres from the line
2) We need to enforce the play the ball with the foot rule, not attempt to play it with the foot.
I also thought that Ainscoughs try shouldn't have been ruled out, there was more than good reason for giving that try on benefit of the doubt.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"There was another questionable referee decision for the first HKR try. The HKR forward (Watts?) was held up over the line but the referee allowed him to play the ball on the tryline (he never actually played the ball) and HKR dummy half dove over to score.
1) The play the ball should have been 10 metres from the line
2) We need to enforce the play the ball with the foot rule, not attempt to play it with the foot.
I also thought that Ainscoughs try shouldn't have been ruled out, there was more than good reason for giving that try on benefit of the doubt.'"
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Indeed, and that's what he got completely and utterly wrong. There's absolutely zero doubt that that try shouldn't have stood.'"
In your head maybe but not in the head of Mr Gansons, that's the only opinion that counts on this occasion. Over the course of a season these things even themselves out. You all seem to conveniently forget the dodgy forward pass that lead to one of Ainscoughs tries. You lot should really take your black and amber glasses off and get in the real world!
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| Bloody hell,I hope the ref on Friday is o.k.
Its like all out war on here!
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