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| Can anyone bring to mind the punishment handed out for last seasons mass brawl between HKR/HFC fans on the pitch at Craven Park?
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| Quote ="smoking monkey"Can anyone bring to mind the punishment handed out for last seasons mass brawl between HKR/HFC fans on the pitch at Craven Park?'"
Hull KR were fined £7,500 with £5,000 of it suspended.
Laughable.
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| Quote ="smoking monkey"Can anyone bring to mind the punishment handed out for last seasons mass brawl between HKR/HFC fans on the pitch at Craven Park?'" think it was something like a 5 grand fine, i am not sure but to me it was a far worse incident in which one of the players were struck and it all got a bit scary but the punishment was far less but now a pressitent has been set it must be followed through for everyone including the so called bigger teams.
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| Quote ="debaser"Not bitter in the slightest. Kick you out and give Wigan a bye for me.
I object to thugs/morons/idiots/etc being allowed to ruin what used to be a family sport though.
If the RFL dealt out some harsh punishments then maybe the clubs might start to do something.
It's the same at Hull with Chav Corner. Everyone ignores it, nothing gets done so it continues year on year.
You get a small fine, fans moan a bit. Nothing will change.
If you were thrown out of the play offs then maybe, just maybe, people will start to take notice. The club will improve its stewarding and the decent fans will point out the idiots to them so they are banned.'"
erm kick you out because of the underhand deals with the sheep shagger that ended up costing you a fortune, or is that ok
by the way your a right T!T
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| Quote ="Speedy"erm kick you out because of the underhand deals with the sheep shagger that ended up costing you a fortune, or is that ok
by the way your a right T!T
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And the relevance of your point is?
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| Quote ="pyeman"I will look forward to you calling for bulls to have points deducted next time there is trouble at the crater then.'"
Quite right. Next time any Bulls fans throw things at the ref or the opposition, I will.
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| Quote ="debaser"icon_confused.gif:
And the relevance of your point is?'"
your a T!T, cant you understand that, T!T
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| Quote ="Speedy"your a T!T, cant you understand that, T!T'"
No I understand totally. But the fact you have no relevant point to make, so have to resort to pathetic insults, rather implies that it is you who is indeed the T!T.
But very clever anyway.
You should try bottling it that wit.
You could throw it at someone then.
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| [url=http://www.castigers.com/cgi-bin/news.cgi?42_354711Tigers haven't ruled out an appeal.[/url
(first para)
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| Quote ="debaser"You should try bottling it that wit.'"
That's not even a proper sentence!
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| Quote ="casman2"icon_confused.gif
That's not even a proper sentence!'"
He's missing a comma as well as the playoffs.
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| Quote ="debaser"No I understand totally. But the fact you have no relevant point to make, so have to resort to pathetic insults, rather implies that it is you who is indeed the T!T.
But very clever anyway.
You should try bottling it that wit.
You could throw it at someone then.
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Na your a T!T
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| Quote ="Disco"[url=http://www.castigers.com/cgi-bin/news.cgi?42_354711Tigers haven't ruled out an appeal.[/url
(first para)'"
The stadium news is much more important....
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| Quote ="Fully"The stadium news is much more important....'"
Im very optimistic over it
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| Quote ="Speedy"Im very optimistic over it'"
Hmm, I'm still nonplussed. Went to the CTSC Meet the Directors meeting and a lot of confusing stuff, nothing concrete as per usual.
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| I am trying to be as unbiased as I can regarding this fine, but try as I might I can only see a very harsh punishment, particularly as it is one for a first time offender.
Before Hull FC fans start having a go, I can honestly say they are one of my favourite other teams, but the fact remains they were serial offenders, even before the disgraceful scenes after they invaded the pitch after the semi versus Leeds. Can anyone remember how much they got fined for that?
I also seem to remember they invaded the playing area in an attempt to cause trouble during a Challenge cup semi versus ourselves. Yet I never recalled them getting a fine this harsh. And as people have already said there was the disgraceful on field invasion and brawl at Hull KR, which was far worse.
Then there was the Salford fans flare throwing episode. What people have also forgotten, was that it was also a Salford fan that invaded the field of play DURING a Challenge Cup semi and actually assaulted the referee who needed medical attention, and in full view of the TV cameras. He is now of course the referee's controller.
So it appears that besieging the match officials dressing room, but not causing him any physical harm, is considered worse than actually assaulting him and causing him to require medical attention.
Trouble is with the lot that run our club, they are hardly men of steel to say the least and unfortunately have long since been regarded as a 'soft touch' by those at Red Hall.
It is probably one of the reasons why we appear to get more harshly treated at the disciplinary meetings and never appeal, whilst clubs like Hull and Leeds have appealed regularly and got them reduced, as they both of course have just done very recently.
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| Quote ="Fully"The stadium news is much more important....'"
why?.....will they be able to sell bottled beer there?
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| Quote ="spener"why?.....will they be able to sell bottled beer there?'"
na they will just have plastic pint pots full of p!ss like in your stand
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| Fuck me it's raining trolls this week.
Roll up, ten for a bob.
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| Quote ="Bullet"I am trying to be as unbiased as I can regarding this fine, but try as I might I can only see a very harsh punishment, particularly as it is one for a first time offender.'"
I don't think this is the first time for us. Did'nt fans siege the the changing rooms, back in the 90's, shortly before or after Stu Raper took over?
I think that day the ref had to wait until the fans were dispersed which was over an hour.
But for a club that in the past has generally been on the right side of the fence, I agree with you it does seem rather harsh. Lets just hope the board have the balls to go for an appeal.
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| Quote ="tropical1"does anyone know how queens got on I think they were up at disciplinary with us today?'"
3 year cup ban........an they never got near the refs room
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| I think some folk are going way over the top.
The fans weren't banging on the ref's room or trying to break it down.
They were congragated at the back of the main stand OUTSIDE.
It was aggresive understandably, we had some real dubious decisions against us. Even mother thressa would have gone of on one with the officiation of that game. Anyhow we've been punished,that should be that.
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| Quote ="Bullet"What people have also forgotten, was that it was also a Salford fan that invaded the field of play DURING a Challenge Cup semi and actually assaulted the referee who needed medical attention, and in full view of the TV cameras. He is now of course the referee's controller.'"
Hang on. Are you saying if I run on the pitch and punch Ganson I can become the referees controller?
Now there is a punishment that fits the crime
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| I think the fine is a little steep but reflects the multiple offences of throwing bottles onto the pitch and in the general direction of the Catalans players as well as verbally abusing the ref and congregating around his changing rooms in what was evidently an intimidatory manner, irrespective of the fact no-one actually assaulted him.
Had we simply been guilty of throwing bottles we may well have got away with a suspended fine and a warning.
Hopefully this will give the culprits cause to think about and regret their actions... but I wouldn't hold my breath!!
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| I think we have done ok at the hearing. That said, I do think it should have been points. Put it this way, none of us is out of pocket but it would hurt supporters if we lost points. My view is based on what I would think for any club, not just for us.
Hopefully we will learn from it. I hope its not a sign of the future.
What hurt me most was the news headline for rugby league referring to the poor behaviour of Castleford supporters. I live in Warrington and Im a teacher and all my kids know I support Cas. For the first time ever I felt a little ashamed to be a Cas fan - a feeling Ive never had before and hope with all ive got I never feel again.
Hope the next headline is "Cas shock Wigan."
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