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| All seems reasonable to me:
There is an investigation in law ongoing - therefore that is being respected with privacy and that is right and proper.
Secondly, regardless of if Richie is charged (which he isnt yet and being charged is still an acre away from being convicted or in fact guilty bear in mind) he has admitted and the club have sanctioned him becuase guilty or not, he has breached a proprtion of his responsibilities and as such a sanction is warranted.
Without judging on the rights and wrongs, I have had my say on the thread already abotu this - I fail to see in a society that has an innocent until proven guilty justice system what anyone else wants to see? Civic justice is doing its thing, but regardless of that the club has moved quickly to punish a player and he has moved quickly to be contrite and apologise and say as much as he can for the moment.
Seems a very positive position at the moment, door still open if some allegation is proved for further action/statement. End of story.
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He was using trinitarianwf2 but since i pointed out it was obvious it was still him using a different name he hasn't been on since.
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| Quote ="mdean"Without judging on the rights and wrongs, I have had my say on the thread already abotu this - I fail to see in a society that has an innocent until proven guilty justice system what anyone else wants to see?'"
I think you've summed it up well; the club appear to have done everything they can reasonably do at this stage.
As for the bit in bold - has anyone called for anything more? I don't see a great deal of moralistic outrage about this case and from what I've read, apart from reasonable comments about the follishness of young men in drink, there doesn't seem to be a mob baying for blood.
It reminds me a bit of our own handling of the Gregg Johnson case last season; he was subject to a police investigation and rightly, the club didn't apply any sanctions until that investigation was concluded - when it was and it found him guilty of a serious assault, he was dismissed.
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| Quote ="BaldRick"Daft lad goes out and has a few beers and gets into a scuffle shocker .
The above comment is not aimed at the current subject of this thread .
BUT .
How many of the people that are lining up to cast stones at Cas and Mr Owen if the rumours are even anywhere close to being true are guilty of such behaviour themselves ?
I am . Therefore I will not (as much as I would love to ) be involving myself in and slating of either the club or the player .
It ain't uncommon for lads to get involved in a fracas on nights out /take drugs / have an affair/ drink and drive / etc etc etc. There must be thousands of such incidents every night of the week . Some happen to involve people who are considered to be public figures .
Yes they should know better , but so should your average Joe .
We all make mistakes . I have made some of biblical proportion in my life .
Some people really need to lose their holier than thou attitude . The fall from those high horses can be very painful so I hear .
Ditto regarding Hull .
And there speaks the voice of reason!
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| Quote ="westyorkylad"Quote ="BaldRick"Daft lad goes out and has a few beers and gets into a scuffle shocker .
The above comment is not aimed at the current subject of this thread .
BUT .
How many of the people that are lining up to cast stones at Cas and Mr Owen if the rumours are even anywhere close to being true are guilty of such behaviour themselves ?
I am . Therefore I will not (as much as I would love to ) be involving myself in and slating of either the club or the player .
It ain't uncommon for lads to get involved in [ua fracas on nights out /take drugs / have an affair/ drink and drive[/u / etc etc etc. There must be thousands of such incidents every night of the week . Some happen to involve people who are considered to be public figures .
Yes they should know better , but so should your average Joe .
We all make mistakes . I have made some of biblical proportion in my life .
Some people really need to lose their holier than thou attitude . The fall from those high horses can be very painful so I hear .
Ditto regarding Hull .
And there speaks the voice of reason!'" '"
I must be holier then, because I haven't done any of those things.
I've walked away from some fracas, in Ponte as well.
It's not that it isn't in me. I'm a big lad. I know how to handle myself. I got in to plenty of dust ups playing rugby, but not in public and not because I was worse for drink. Never taken drugs (apart from over counter for man flu), certainly never had an affair, and drink driving is the worsed of the lot. We have some recent examples of how that can wreck lives in the rugby league community.
I'm not special, but my parents raised a kid who knows right from wrong.
I'm not saying that in relation to Owen's case, but it is in relation to a justification of 'everybody does it so isn't so bad'
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Major Jizz-fest over on the Wakey board. All things concerning RO and Probiz sponsorship (with added negativity) on there folks.'"
It would be interesting what some of their holier than thou posters would say if, for example Ben Cockcayne scored the game clinching try in the Good Friday game,or clinched a play off place / Wembley final place etc
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| Quote ="duke street 10"Quote ="Tigerade"Major Jizz-fest over on the Wakey board. All things concerning RO and Probiz sponsorship (with added negativity) on there folks.'"
It would be interesting what some of their holier than thou posters would say if, for example Ben Cockcayne scored the game clinching try in the Good Friday game,or clinched a play off place / Wembley final place etc
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A genuine question here - where are you seeing all this supposed 'holier than thou' stuff about Owen from WTW fans? I've just had another look on our board and there's nothing of the sort.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="duke street 10"Quote ="Tigerade"Major Jizz-fest over on the Wakey board. All things concerning RO and Probiz sponsorship (with added negativity) on there folks.'"
It would be interesting what some of their holier than thou posters would say if, for example Ben Cockcayne scored the game clinching try in the Good Friday game,or clinched a play off place / Wembley final place etc
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A genuine question here - where are you seeing all this supposed 'holier than thou' stuff about Owen from WTW fans? I've just had another look on our board and there's nothing of the sort.'"
think the thread titled LOL answers your question
and the very first comment
www.superleaguefans.com/castleford-tigers/2012/01/04/outcome-of-hearing-richard-owen.html
Dont go into Pontefract on Boxing Day again Richard there's a good lad...punishment?
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| Quote ="fozz28"think the thread titled LOL answers your question
and the very first comment
www.superleaguefans.com/castleford-tigers/2012/01/04/outcome-of-hearing-richard-owen.html
Dont go into Pontefract on Boxing Day again Richard there's a good lad...punishment? '"
One slightly sarcastic comment from the OP, followed by lots of sensible, cautionary stuff; I still don't see any evidence of the 'holier than thou' brigade that's been mentioned.
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| bren2k take this the nicest way possible, but can't you just f&%#k off back to the Wakefield forum, your getting on everyone's nerves with your useless statements
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| Quote ="castigersdave"bren2k take this the nicest way possible, but can't you just f&%#k off back to the Wakefield forum, your getting on everyone's nerves with your useless statements'"
Dont worry he is stuck on our board as well, might have to nick your post and repost it on ours.
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| Quote ="castigersdave"bren2k take this the nicest way possible, but can't you just f&%#k off back to the Wakefield forum, your getting on everyone's nerves with your useless statements'"
I can see the reason that you're being so aggressive - I'm highlighting the fact that the reaction to this incident on our board is being grossly misrepresented by some people and you don't like it; there's no need for personal attacks though, or for circumventing the swear filter, which I believe is against the AUP.
I'm quite shocked - people on here are normally very friendly.
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| Quote ="bren2k"
I'm quite shocked - people on here are normally very friendly.'"
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
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| Quote ="bren2k"I can see the reason that you're being so aggressive - I'm highlighting the fact that the reaction to this incident on our board is being grossly misrepresented by some people and you don't like it; there's no need for personal attacks though, or for circumventing the swear filter, which I believe is against the AUP.
I'm quite shocked - people on here are normally very friendly.'"
and this post sums up why you annoy folk on here.
plus you dont need to educate people about whats against the AUP
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| Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="castigersdave"bren2k take this the nicest way possible, but can't you just f&%#k off back to the Wakefield forum, your getting on everyone's nerves with your useless statements'"
I can see the reason that you're being so aggressive - I'm highlighting the fact that the reaction to this incident on our board is being grossly misrepresented by some people and you don't like it; there's no need for personal attacks though, or for circumventing the swear filter, which I believe is against the AUP.
I'm quite shocked - people on here are normally very friendly.'"
Bren you do come across as a right pompus twit at times, but as i have said before i think you do it on purpose because your bored
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| Quote ="binks"Bren you do come across as a right pompus twit at times, but as i have said before i think you do it on purpose because your bored'"
Correct on both counts.
Some of the comments on this thread have irritated me though; there certainly is a lot of needle between Cas and WTW fans, that's all par for the course and good fun, but to suggest that we've been hyper-critical of Owen or 'holier than thou' as some people have put it, is just plain wrong. I like needle, but the overblown sense that everyone is anti-Cas on every issue is just silly and I thought it was ok to challenge that.
Equally, the reason I started posting on the Hull board is because some people insisted on repeating the nonsense that Richard Agar was involved in the drugs scandal/cover-up at their club; plainly he wasn't, so I challenged that.
I'm like a super-hero, crusading for truth and justice. And cake.
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| To be honest Richard Owen's current adventures are the only interesting thing going on.
Bring on the rugby so we can can get back to argueing about a forward pass or something.
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Quote ="bren2k"Correct on both counts.
I'm like a super-hero, crusading for truth and justice. And cake.'"
Oh Bren i have so found you out
www.imdb.com/title/tt1250777/
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Quote ="bren2k"Correct on both counts.
I'm like a super-hero, crusading for truth and justice. And cake.'"
Oh Bren i have so found you out
www.imdb.com/title/tt1250777/
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More like [url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1512235/this one[/url, to be honest; he's fatter and less successful.
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More like [url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1512235/this one[/url, to be honest; he's fatter and less successful.
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| Quote ="bren2k"icon_lol.gif
More like [url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1512235/this one[/url, to be honest; he's fatter and less successful.'"
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I'm honoured... I think.
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| I'm thinking more Captain Chaos from Cannon Ball Run
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm thinking more Captain Chaos from Cannon Ball Run'"
Dun dun deeeer!
Better hide your nuns.
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