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| They will be no ground share at Glasshoughton simply because no stadium will be built at Glasshoughton. The reason.....Money!
For all Dickies latest ramblings the fact is that Castleford Tigers have shown no compromise what so ever. A ground share in a neutral location like Newmarket would be the only way forward as compromise. Trouble is with Dickie is he wants his cake and eat it! Something that won't of gone a miss at RFL headquarters.
After last years warning letters the RFL have to show they mean business. How would it look when clubs like Halifax and Leigh have worked there butts off to get facilities up to SL standard and get denied when clubs like Cas have done nothing but break promises? Like I've already said this will happen just watch this space.
Personally I think the whole process ridiculous, been a tradionalist I believe the game should be decided on the pitch not behind closed doors. Unfortunatly our Mug chairman's voted for this selfish system of ring fencing ourselves and now its going to be both clubs downfall. Like I said earlier, enjoying it while the sun shines!
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| Quote ="StuMain"www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1343
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Translated...Glasshoughton is still after 5 years, work in progress and is likely to still be in 5 years time due to a lack of funding!
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| Quote ="DJ KYLE THOM"Ah, fantastic. We didn't realise Mr Glover had £7.5million in his back pocket. Surely if he did have, he'd mortgage it into a stadium for the Wildcats instead in the first place??'"
Does AG have that sort of money? In a word, yes.
I think some in the RL world haven't yet realised how wealthy he is.
Could he raise that money without dipping into his own pocket through his substantial business portfolio, almost certainly.
AG is a very successful businessman & IMO could be a potential solution to the problem.
Have I lost hope in NM? Far from it. I am more sure than ever that NM will be developed due to the LDF dates.
NM represents more than Pro RL & will be the crowning piece of sporting heritage for years to come- & I'm sure CT will make use of the amazing training facilities. But in all honesty isn't feasible due to red tape when WT need it most, now.
J32 maybe feasible but as we all know lacks funding. AG could be the solution to the short term problem we face a region. With the end game being 2 state of the art stadiums and world class training and development facilities for the use of all 3 teams in the vicinity.
If properly done (with taste and caution) we could make a solution to enable both clubs to go forward- regardless of how SL rules in July.
Utopian and idealistic maybe, but feasible.... IMO YES.
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| deeHell: Why ruin another stadium thread?
Our time for back biting is done, save it for the field.
Off the field we need to work together.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"deeHell: Why ruin another stadium thread?
Our time for back biting is done, save it for the field.
Off the field we need to work together.'"
Whats up, forgot your password for SWC log in!
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| You've got a lot of growing up to do.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"deeHell: Why ruin another stadium thread?
Our time for back biting is done, save it for the field.
Off the field we need to work together.'"
Work together NEVER.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"Does AG have that sort of money? In a word, yes.
I think some in the RL world haven't yet realised how wealthy he is.'"
In another word, No he doesn't.
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| Jesus! One win against a team that has only managed a single win all season themselves and they are back. How's the search for the scoreboard going?
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| Within a few weeks deehell will be eating his words.
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."Within a few weeks deehell will be eating his words.'"
That's what I'm hearing too.
As long as it's a 50/50 deal I have no problem.
Whatever anyone thinks/historically thought about sharing has to been seen in the wider context of the game & the futures of both clubs.
TBH the more I think about it the more it seems like the logical option we've all ignored all along.
1 Stadium being used by 2 teams would give us both the quality stadium we need and give us both much more spending power due to reduced cost of upkeep.
Anyone that doubts AG's financial capabilities need to look at the total number of businesses he owns.
50% of a a stadium would roughly be equivalent to a new production plant or warehouse/distribution centre with associated machinery- would that come from his pocket? No because he's a successful businessman.
All I'm saying is this has to be considered. If it's J32 so be it- just do it right and get on with it!
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"All I'm saying is this has to be considered.'"
Considering RW's exact words were "Wakefield offer nothing" when asked about a groundshare at Glasshoughton, I don't think he's too keen on the idea.
Added to the fact with all the work Cas have put in already, there is no way a 50/50 share should be considered.
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| Quote ="deeHell"
After last years warning letters the RFL have to show they mean business. How would it look when clubs like Halifax and Leigh have worked there butts off to get facilities up to SL standard and get denied when clubs like Cas have done nothing but break promises? Like I've already said this will happen just watch this space.
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Break promises?
You mean: The one stating that we'd build a new stadium? Yep, that's still in-tact, no promise broken.
Or: The one stating we'd build a stadium at Glasshoughton? Yep, that's still in tact - no promise broken.
The RFL are well aware of our situation. I suggest you go away and concentrate on worrying about your own problems. You do nothing but make yourself sound like a bitter, bitter individual.
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| Quote ="who needs flankers?"Jesus! One win against a team that has only managed a single win all season themselves and they are back. How's the search for the scoreboard going?'"
Hull have got one win this season but still, I agree with your point. The more they keep denying, the more our fans I believe.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Considering RW's exact words were "Wakefield offer nothing" when asked about a groundshare at Glasshoughton, I don't think he's too keen on the idea.
Added to the fact with all the work Cas have put in already, there is no way a 50/50 share should be considered.'"
And costs.
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| How much money are Wakey putting into the newmarket project?
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| 95% of Wakefield fans would not support Trinity Playing in Castleford
95% of Castleford fans would not support Castleford playing in Wakefield
95% of both sets of fans woould not support a merged team
So whay the hell are we still having this debate?
(figures are estimated)
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| Quote ="spook2011"95% of Wakefield fans would not support Trinity Playing in Castleford
95% of Castleford fans would not support Castleford playing in Wakefield
95% of both sets of fans woould not support a merged team
So whay the hell are we still having this debate?
(figures are estimated)'"
On average, 87.91% of all statistics are made up on the spot. When it comes to the Cas/Wakey stadium debate, this rises by another 18.54%
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| Quote ="Fully"Hull have got one win this season but still, I agree with your point. The more they keep denying, the more our fans I believe.'"
Get your specs on Fully! Or we might start calling you Bentham!
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| Quote ="deeHell"Without getting involved in arguments with specific individuals on here I just want to state what the facts are, not the facts through amber and black glasses.
Newmarket will eventually get built! ( 2 years from now, at a conservative estimate). Obviously this will be too late for Wakefield and will more than likely cost us a license to Widnes.
Glasshoughton will not in the near future get built, the money is just not there and you can't just magic millions £s of private money up! No amount of apperances from Dicke Wrong on Glasshoughton pit stack with hard hat and high vis jacket on will change that, you've used that card already. The RFL are know exactly what agenda they are working to, after previous broken promises from Cas you have failed to deliver on the stadium...FACT! You along with Wakey and Salford received a warning letter from the RFL, regarding fulfilling promises about stadium facilities. by promising then failing to deliver you have set yourselves up for the chop! Cas will lose there franchise to Halifax, remember you heard it here first. Widnes will be announced in a few weeks then Halifax will be announced in a couple of months, Wakey and Cas will be out in July! Enjoy your day in the sun! Obviously time will tell if I'm right but remember where you heard if first!
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I this the same Halifax that have run without a second team, or youth set up for the last license period, the same Halifax that only reached the average crowd figure by giving out free tickets to one match and increasing the attendance that day by near on 90%. The same Halifax where parts of the ground are shut due to to them being unsafe.
The fact is and Im not begrudging them this, is that Halifax poured all their money into the first team in the last few years and still only won one trophy, this applies to Barrow too, which is why in the RFLs eyes Widnes are the chosen ones, they have put in place solid structures, with youth development etc and still managed to win a trophy.
I would imagine that Cas have improved just about every area of their application this time round and to me seem to be steadily improving as a club, ok the stadium is still not sorted, but in reality we all know this is down to the Economy. To me Cas have demonstrated exactly what the franchises were brought in for, steady progression all this on the back of relegations. Wakefield on the other hand as business have been in steady decline or at best stayed stagnant, granted they now have a new owner, however I feel this will be too little too late, you can not really judge what Mr Glover can "deliver" in such a small amount of time, or indeed whether he could consistently deliver over the long term.
One thing is for sure the RFL will get stick who ever goes lol
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| Newmarket has gone to PI this means it could still be turned down there is no guarantee that it will ever be built - why would cas turn round and say yeah we will groundshare with Wakey as the outcome of PI will probably come out this time next year and if it is refused then that leaves us both without a new ground.
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| Which is why IMO we need to look at a share at GH.
We make up the shortfall in funding buy buying 50%. We share the ground- whichever division we're in.
All the while waiting on the PI/moving plans to the designated PI alternative site (as even if NM is turned down the PI HAS to offer an alternative site). When WT have a new site ready CT repay the 50% and WT move out.
CT say "thank you Mr Glover" and we go our separate ways.
Everyone's happy.
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| Quote ="Bavaria Crown Tiger"How much money are Wakey putting into the newmarket project?'"
Nothing.
But that was a different business. The current one has far more business acumen and resources.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"Which is why IMO we need to look at a share at GH.
We make up the shortfall in funding buy buying 50%. We share the ground- whichever division we're in.
All the while waiting on the PI/moving plans to the designated PI alternative site (as even if NM is turned down the PI HAS to offer an alternative site). When WT have a new site ready CT repay the 50% and WT move out.
CT say "thank you Mr Glover" and we go our separate ways.
Everyone's happy.'"
For heavens sake give it a rest we don't want to share its not an option at GH. GH is for Cas it always has been
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