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| Quote ="Kosh"Congratulations. You've just shown that you are either:
1. A one-eyed troll.
OR
2. Someone who doesn't understand the laws of the game.
Or possibly both.'"
Ahh well, it's a fair cop.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFOk, while we're bringing up other decisions in the game:
Cockayne knocking the ball out of Ainscough's arms into touch + Ainscough tackled in the air by Welham - Hull KR head & feed - WRONG
Dobson knocks on an up & under, makes a break gets a good 70 yard - play on - WRONG
Watts incorrect play the ball & obstruction - try given - WRONG
Welham offside for Cockayne try - try given - WRONG
Newton elbows Higgins in the face - Hull KR penalty - WRONG
Ainscough disallowed try with no conclusive evidence - No try - WRONG
Oh and there was no obstruction on any Cas try, just dummy runners - big difference.'"
Should through them tainted specs away mate.... will spoil your entertainment
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| Some exerts taken from the Rugby League laws Book:
SECTION 10
KNOCK-ON AND FORWARD PASS
Accidental 2. If, after knocking-on accidentally, the player
knocking-on regains or kicks the ball before it
touches the ground, a goal post, cross bar or an
opponent, then play shall be allowed to proceed.
Otherwise play shall stop and a scrum shall be
formed except after the fifth play-the-ball.
After a player, from the field of play, knocks on into his
opponent’s in-goal area and he or a colleague touches down,
play is restarted with a scrum where the knock-on occurred,
except after a play-the-ball subject to Section 12, Law 10.
SECTION 6
SCORING – TRIES AND GOALS
Try – How scored 3. A try is scored when:–
(a) a player first grounds the ball in his opponents’
in-goal, provided that he is not in touch or touch
in-goal or on or over the dead ball line.
(b) opposing players simultaneously ground the ball
in the in-goal area provided that the attacking
player is not in touch or touch in-goal or on or
over the dead ball line.
When an attacking player fails to ground the ball correctly,
play continues unless an illegal event has occured , e.g. a
knock-on or the ball goes dead.
SECTION 11
THE TACKLE AND PLAY-THE-BALL
(e) When the ball touches the ground it must be
heeled (i.e. backwards) by the tackled player. The
ball must not be kicked or heeled by the player
marking him.
The ball is in play when it has been played
backward.
You Guys decide!?
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| Quote ="tim2446"Some exerts taken from the Rugby League laws Book:
SECTION 10
KNOCK-ON AND FORWARD PASS
Accidental 2. If, after knocking-on accidentally, the player
knocking-on regains or kicks the ball before it
touches the ground, a goal post, cross bar or an
opponent, then play shall be allowed to proceed.
Otherwise play shall stop and a scrum shall be
formed except after the fifth play-the-ball.
After a player, from the field of play, knocks on into his
opponent’s in-goal area and he or a colleague touches down,
play is restarted with a scrum where the knock-on occurred,
except after a play-the-ball subject to Section 12, Law 10.
SECTION 6
SCORING – TRIES AND GOALS
Try – How scored 3. A try is scored when:–
(a) a player first grounds the ball in his opponents’
in-goal, provided that he is not in touch or touch
in-goal or on or over the dead ball line.
(b) opposing players simultaneously ground the ball
in the in-goal area provided that the attacking
player is not in touch or touch in-goal or on or
over the dead ball line.
When an attacking player fails to ground the ball correctly,
play continues unless an illegal event has occured , e.g. a
knock-on or the ball goes dead.
SECTION 11
THE TACKLE AND PLAY-THE-BALL
(e) When the ball touches the ground it must be
heeled (i.e. backwards) by the tackled player. The
ball must not be kicked or heeled by the player
marking him.
The ball is in play when it has been played
backward.
You Guys decide!?'"
Your research and cut and paste ability are second to none sir... second seems to be a popular position in Cas
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"Your research and cut and paste ability are second to none sir... second seems to be a popular position in Cas
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"Automotex has the finest selection of used Toyota in Castleford cars for sale. If you need a second hand Toyota in Castleford car then look no further."
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| unlucky guys but got to agree with you that you was robbed
thought you was the better team tonight
great performance and great game to watch
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| You made some bad errors tonight but aside from that i thought nearly every video ref decision went against you and cost you the game.
apart from the ones already mentioned imo Ainscough did ground that ball on the line before it bounced out.
OOOh Look. A Hull FC fan telling us that Rovers shouldn't have won. He just posts this into every fans forum after each Rovers victory!
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| Great game to watch as a neutral and you should have had the game sewn up by half time, but that doesn't take away from the fact that the refs decisions are having a massive influence on games. Making them full time has made no difference what so ever. We have video refs to help make the correct decision but even the clowns in control of them get it wrong. To give Watts the try was a joke, he had no control of the ball and even gave himself up by hitting the ground in frustration.
Gutted for you guys.
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| that so called try ganson awarded was never a try in the memory of man..it was a blatant knock on..fat little ganson should be demoted after a decision like that.
you can bet if it wouldv'e happened in the middle of the field baldy bentham would have blew up for a knock on.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Quite a biased slant to your observations there don't you think?'"
my god lad, you just cant handle the truth
CAS WERE ROBBED
but it suits soopa doopa league so nothing will be said about the two clowns, oops officials
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"that so called try ganson awarded was never a try in the memory of man..it was a blatant knock on..fat little ganson should be demoted after a decision like that.
you can bet if it wouldv'e happened in the middle of the field baldy bentham would have blew up for a knock on.'"
Ganson will probably get a present from Cummings not demotion. We are getting payback from the Catalan game last year
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| Not seen the incident yet, but if he made contact at the same time as the ball hit the floor, as the rules state it should be a 10m scrum to Cas, or a restart if it was the 5th tackle. Sounds like you got done. Wakey fan.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I'm a neutral so no horse in this race but where did you get these from? I know what you mean about the incorrect play the ball but, as Stevo & Eddie said, incorrect play the balls litter superleague at present so Ganson would not have been justified in denying a try on that basis. If the obstruction is what I think it is, then it simply wasn't obstruction. Your player tackled the dummy runner and that was very clear. I don't know about the offside as there wasn't an offside possibility discussed and I didn't notice an offside during any of HKR's tries.
The last try was a bit of a strange one in that I didn't know such an interpretation of knock on (or rather not a knock on) existed. I automatically thought that final try was a knock on but it would seem not. Something to do with it not having hit the ground before being grounded, or something (like I said, a strange one).
From a neutral's POV a draw would have been the fairest result as both teams made silly errors during different patches in the match, both teams had varying defences at different times in the match and both teams played some extremely entertaining rugby league at most times during the match.
I always look forward to watching Cas as they always, always produce some great attacking football. But your guys really do have to get over letting sound leads go at home! It must be so frustrating as a Cas fan to watch that happen!'" I belive for it to be a knock on it has to leave the players hand and travel forward and hit anyother object (other player, ground, post pad etc) but if the ball is regathered by the same player before it hits another object then its playon.
So in this situation the only question in the VR's mind was did the player have control of the grounding.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"[uI belive for it to be a knock on it has to leave the players hand and travel forward and hit anyother object (other player, ground, post pad etc) but if the ball is regathered by the same player before it hits another object then its playon.[/u
So in this situation the only question in the VR's mind was did the player have control of the grounding.'"
Thats the way i understand the ruling, not seen it again and did not get a good view last night so can't say if it should have stood, but you are correct.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"I belive for it to be a knock on it has to leave the players hand and travel forward and hit anyother object (other player, ground, post pad etc) but if the ball is regathered by the same player before it hits another object then its playon.
So in this situation the only question in the VR's mind was did the player have control of the grounding.'"
I agree. At the very best you could say he 'regained control' (i.e. got downward pressure on the ball ) as it hit the ground. Therefore it WAS a knock-on and never a try.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"I belive for it to be a knock on it has to leave the players hand and travel forward and hit anyother object (other player, ground, post pad etc) but if the ball is regathered by the same player before it hits another object then its playon.
So in this situation the only question in the VR's mind was did the player have control of the grounding.'"
Indeed, and that's what he got completely and utterly wrong. There's absolutely zero doubt that that try shouldn't have stood.
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| Quote ="itsalldarntlane"my god lad, you just cant handle the truth
CAS WERE ROBBED
but it suits soopa doopa league so nothing will be said about the two clowns, oops officials
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The truth is that Rovers won, that's a fact, it's you that struggles with the truth, and as for it suiting the RFL that Rovers won last night, well that would be a first.
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| as a Hull fc fan i hate to say it but i do n't think you were robbed?
your team just threw it away with their lack of control inside the rovers half
the game could have been won in the first half if they'd taken half their chances.
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| I was at the game and could see the video decision on the big screen and i thought it was a knock-on.
CHURCHILL does have a point though, the records and league table will show that we lost and we can't change that fact.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"The truth is that Rovers won, that's a fact, it's you that struggles with the truth, and as for it suiting the RFL that Rovers won last night, well that would be a first.'"
we know the result numpty but almost all the rugby league world knows that game was given to rovers by two incompetant fools who obviously dont understand the rules of the game.
youre not related to ganson are you ? the similarities point that way
bye bye little lad
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| Quote ="itsalldarntlane"we know the result numpty but almost all the rugby league world knows that game was given to rovers by two incompetant fools who obviously dont understand the rules of the game.
youre not related to ganson are you ? the similarities point that way
bye bye little lad
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The same incompetant fools who missed forward passes for two of your trys. Swings and roundabouts. fwiw i said to our lass we were very lucky try was given but so were you on the forward passes
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| Quote ="itsalldarntlane"we know the result numpty but almost all the rugby league world knows that game was given to rovers by two incompetant fools who obviously dont understand the rules of the game.
youre not related to ganson are you ? the similarities point that way
bye bye little lad
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As mentioned elsewhere, Cas had their fair share of 50/50 calls go their way, result stands, off you pop, toodle pip.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"As mentioned elsewhere, Cas had their fair share of 50/50 calls go their way, result stands, off you pop, toodle pip.'"
50/50 calls my armpit
your comments show you havent seen the game like the fella before you
my fault for replying to a no mark troll
bet ya not even from the fish market too
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFBut 3 KR trys came from: Offside, obstruction & incorrect play the ball and a knock on (the actual try AND in the build up.'"
Yet never in the history of Castleford has the boot been on the other foot, take it like a man.
Wakefield lost to Saints by two tries that would almost certainly have been wiped by the Video Ref on a Sky game. So what, it's tough on us but there is no guarantee that we would have won over the 80 mins.
Saints won and nothing will change that, I'm sure over the season things will even themselves out. When that happens to Cas I do hope you will be as vociferous in your attack on the Ref and show your utmost support for the club you and the Ref robbed.
All Refs are rubbish when you lose especially tight games, have you not sussed that yet.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"The truth is that Rovers won, that's a fact, it's you that struggles with the truth, and as for it suiting the RFL that Rovers won last night, well that would be a first.'"
Rovers won because of a bad decision simple as.
You have the 2 points we dont. It's history now.
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