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| Quote ="chissitt"Not really sure just whereabouts the proposed stadium is at Newmarket but if its in Methley itself then the postcode is Leeds. That might solve a few problems
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I wouldn't travel anywhere, unless it was in Cas.
If you take the club's identity out of Cas, then it's not Cas. Might as well call it Calder.
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| Quote ="pyeman"I really can understand your frustration and the frustration of other championship fans, and although i can see the benefit of franchising (for instance the number of youngsters playing in sl this year has been impressive and looks set to increase) the idea of a closed shop where you are discriminated against due to your post code, does not sit east with me, for me franchising will only be ultimatley succesful if it puts rl in the position where it is strong enough to reintroduce p and r (ie a fulltime 2nd tier, enough money to give parachute payments etc). I really do hope that all rl clubs who are pursuing new stadia whether they are in the championships or sl get there new stadiums, whether they be wakey, swinton feth, salford or haven.'"
There are still far too many foreign players in the UK and i dont see this stopping, an easy way to get more youngsters in teams is to cut the quota, no need to stop P+R. franchising is apartheid simple as, i recently applied for a grant to Sport England for Selby Warriors, one of the questions was "does your organisation exclude any groups" if yes the grant is not for you. The irony to this question is the chairman of sport England is our own Richard Lewis, the man at the head of RL the organisation that excludes over half the clubs in the country from its top flight.
All the RFL are doing with the licencing system is paying lip service to the fans and championship clubs, at the next round they will pick the teams THEY want in just like they did last time, no matter what grades teams get. I would think more of them if they just did that instead of putting clubs through a very expensive and time consuming process
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| Quote ="chissitt"icon_lol.gif You dont fancy either of us for a good cup run then
'" well i was aiming for minimum games two cup runs and two playoff runs could get it to 30+
I take the point of the rfl "encouraging" you to merge, this is the worst thing that could happen and would put me off the whole concept of cas and wakey sharing a ground
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"well i was aiming for minimum games
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On the other hand we could build a stadium for Cas at the site we've already identified and started work on, with community facilities including a swimming pool … meaning it would be used 52 weeks a year.
Just an idea …
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| Quote ="tb"On the other hand we could build a stadium for Cas at the site we've already identified and started work on, with community facilities including a swimming pool … meaning it would be used 52 weeks a year.
Just an idea …
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The area around it might do, but the stadium?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"As an outsider looking in, why not? what is the distance betweem your clubs? You both come under the borough of Wakefield so surely a combined 20k stadium would work better than two 13k stadia? Saints and Wigan are slightly different as we are 10miles + apart and there is nowhere inbetween to situate a stadium, but if we were closer and there was somewhere to put a combined stadium and it meant both clubs SL survival then i'd be for it.
If Milan can do it, why can't you?'"
We're not AC Wakey, they're not Inter Castleford. We're two different clubs representing two different areas. Why do people constantly drag up inappropriate examples from different sports, different circumstances and different cultures to try and justify crowbaring Cas and Wakey together?
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| I remember reading somewhere that the Stanley site is about 3.5miles from both population centres - an ideal location if a ground share ended up being the only way.
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| Until bricks are actually being laid, as opposed to shat then we are both (Cas & Wakey) at risk.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"I remember reading somewhere that the Stanley site is about 3.5miles from both population centres - an ideal location if a ground share ended up being the only way.'" And how much from the sale of your ground you putting in the pot???
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| Quote ="Disco"We're not AC Wakey, they're not Inter Castleford. We're two different clubs representing two different areas. Why do people constantly drag up inappropriate examples from different sports, different circumstances and different cultures to try and justify crowbaring Cas and Wakey together?
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I agree with you that it's annoying - and pointless. However, Cas and Wakey are in a unique position in that both teams need new stadia if they are to stay up in Superleague and both teams come under the same council, and no way can one council afford to invest in two rugby league clubs, no matter how different the communities or how strongly each identifies with their own rugby league club. Hull is different because one club has no worries with regard to its facilities and the other has clearly done enough to keep the wolf from the door. All other clubs are in separate towns and boroughs from each other, even though some of us are close to one another, so there isn't the same financial pinch on one authority.
Would it be possible for Cas and Wakey to share a stadium but maintain individual identities within that ground? For instance, by having a Wakefield end and a Castleford end, with separate changing rooms and tunnel on to the pitch and identical corporate and other facilities so that each club could operate separately within the same overall physical space? I dunno. It probably sounds dumb! But especially in this time of credit crunch, unless one club can find entirely separate finance and come up with a separate yet equally atttractive idea (which would compel the council to approve it), I cannot see how Wakefield Council can endorse and/or help finance two entirely separate rugby league clubs within its own borough. Apart from anything else, the council tax payers would go ape!
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| Wakefield council arent paying for the stadium
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| Quote ="Speedy"Wakefield council arent paying for the stadium'"
Aren't they putting any money into either stadium at all? If not, they will still need to give them planning permission won't they?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Aren't they putting any money into either stadium at all? If not, they will still need to give them planning permission won't they?'"
there will be some money input for the baths i believe, but basically it will be a private initiative, Outline planning is in place and the final design will be rubber stamped,
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| Quote ="tb"On the other hand we could build a stadium for Cas at the site we've already identified and started work on, with community facilities including a swimming pool … meaning it would be used 52 weeks a year.
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, link ? as in pictures of steel,concrete,bricks and polish workers ?
These pictures to have Xscape in the backround
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| Quote ="Starbug"icon_lol.gif , link ? as in pictures of steel,concrete,bricks and polish workers ?
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stop smoking them funny fags
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| Quote ="tigerbaz"And how much from the sale of your ground you putting in the pot???'"
No idea, guess it would depend on any number of factors - cost of the stadium for instance.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Flattening land ready for the foundations constitutes as work starting on the site
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I thought the flattening of the land was paid for by English heritage to get rid of a load of contaminated spoil,not for the new ground.
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| Quote ="tigerbaz"And how much from the sale of your ground you putting in the pot???'"
You really need to think before you open your mouth, that way you dont leave yourself open to comments that will once again disrupt the thread
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| Quote ="chissitt"You really need to think
before you open your mouth, that way you dont leave yourself open to comments that will once again disrupt the thread
'" No i dont! am just pointing out that the only team that will gain out of any ground share will be wakey, since you have already sold BV and spent most of it!!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Would it be possible for Cas and Wakey to share a stadium but maintain individual identities within that ground? For instance, by having a Wakefield end and a Castleford end, with separate changing rooms and tunnel on to the pitch and identical corporate and other facilities so that each club could operate separately within the same overall physical space? '"
No. The bottom line is there is no location anywhere which would be agreeable to both parties. For Castleford, it has to be IN Castleford, but for Wakefield that's unacceptable so we left deadlocked. No matter how cleverly you design the interior or split the functionality, the bottom line is we'd never ever agree on where to build it.
Quote ="SaintsFan"I cannot see how Wakefield Council can endorse and/or help finance two entirely separate rugby league clubs within its own borough. Apart from anything else, the council tax payers would go ape!'"
As I understand it, it was Wakey's hope that the Council would build them a stadium west of the city centre but (again, as I understand it) it has never been the case that Castleford's stadium would be paid for with public money. The Tigers have done a deal with WMDC which allows the Council to incorporate a number of facilities [u which they would have had to provide anyway[/u into the design of the new stadium, but that is quite different from the Council financing our stadium. Ultimately it actually [isaves[/i the Council money rather than costing them.
Let's be under no illusions here. While Wakey have ummed an ahhed over Durkar, Ossett, Thornes Park and god knows what else, Castleford have been quietly working away on the Glasshoughton Project. Years of work is now nearing fruition for Cas, and there is no way on earth that they will walk away from it at this stage, purely to back Wakey's proposed dream at Stanley.
So please, once and for all.... drop it.
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