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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"Rumours pretty strong around the Constrution Bussiunes that York tree company are in a bit of trouble and not only that bigger fish than Wake are intrested in the land at Stanley.'"
Who the hell are 'York Tree Company'?
I thought it was Yorkcourt Properties Ltd.
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| I'm not one to post messages like this but I have just been speaking to a mate of mine who works in security. He's starting a job on the stadium site as night time security in 2 weeks up at Glasshoughton. He's got a 2 year contract to look after the site.
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| Quote ="Batman"I'm not one to post messages like this but I have just been speaking to a mate of mine who works in security. He's starting a job on the stadium site as night time security in 2 weeks up at Glasshoughton. He's got a 2 year contract to look after the site.'"
Which means thats to look after what's being developed up there and built?
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| Quote ="Fully"Which means thats to look after what's being developed up there and built?'"
Yes, he's just said the contract has been agreed this week and he will get his start date next week. I've got no reason to disbelieve what he has told me.
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| You have to admit the scheme will need nighttime security – otherwise we'll get it 98% built, then some fly-by-night will nick it and move it two miles down the road
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| Quote ="tb"You have to admit the scheme will need nighttime security – otherwise we'll get it 98% built, then some fly-by-night will nick it and move it two miles down the road
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| Quote ="vastman"
Yet I say just look at the state of the nations economy, '"
Speaking from my experience as a member of the main project board for a£70m or so central London office development – apart from housing this is a good time to build: steel prices are at an all time low, contractor costs similarly, etc
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| Quote ="tb"Speaking from my experience as a member of the main project board for a£70m or so central London office development – apart from housing this is a good time to build: steel prices are at an all time low, contractor costs similarly, etc'"
And employment is cheap due to the fact so many people looking for anything they can get as a source of income.
Hell, I'd go up there this weekend and start building for a few quid.
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| Quote ="tb"Speaking from my experience as a member of the main project board for a£70m or so central London office development – apart from housing this is a good time to build: steel prices are at an all time low, contractor costs similarly, etc'"
Quite right!! But unless the construction company/partners are cash rich then it is a very difficult to get the money at competitive interest rates from the banks....and that is the main issue within this current economic climate!
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"Rumours pretty strong around the Constrution Bussiunes that York tree company are in a bit of trouble and not only that bigger fish than Wake are intrested in the land at Stanley.'"
The man in the know
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Quite right!! But unless the construction company/partners are cash rich then it is a very difficult to get the money at competitive interest rates from the banks....and that is the main issue within this current economic climate!'"
Sorry mate,but it has nothing to do with the interest rates.
Money is as cheap as it has ever been and the banks are currently lending at small margins over LIBOR(one month currently at 0.88%).
The problem lies in actually providing sufficient covenant for the lend to happen.
The banking industry got itself in a mess by irresponsible lending.
Unfortunately it has now gone to the other extreme and every deal they do is "buckle and braces"
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| Earlier in the year they asked for volunteers for a Stadium Steering Group. Has anyone been selected for this or had any feedback to their application?.
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| Quote ="BigNige"Earlier in the year they asked for volunteers for a Stadium Steering Group. Has anyone been selected for this or had any feedback to their application?.'"
I was wondering that. If I was local I'd have applied myself.
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| Quote ="deeHell"The man in the know
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| Quote ="tigerbaz"icon_wink.gif'"
Forgot to add, thats knows F**** All!
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| Is it time for a little perspective yet?
To all you Cas fans, we've got [url=http://www.waystone.co.uk/CoreCode/Viewmedia.aspx?mediaId=1266&TB_iframe=true&height=575&width=740&placeValuesBeforeTB_=savedValues&modal=trueTHIS[/url, and [url=http://www.ayberspace.co.uk/ayberspace/php-files/images/news/stadium_topview.jpgTHIS[/url, and [url=http://www.ayberspace.co.uk/ayberspace/php-files/images/news/STADIUM_panorama.jpgTHIS[/url and even [url=http://www.thedrum.co.uk/news/2008/10/14/8732-rugby-s-castleford-tigers-appoints-blue-crocodileTHIS[/url. And of course most of all, we've got [url=http://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk/news/Tigers-get-green-light-for.3539069.jpTHIS[/url.
Meanwhile, Wakey have got [url=http://www.ayberspace.co.uk/ayberspace/php-files/images/news/wakeyplan.jpgTHIS[/url. And if it all goes t*ts up for them they have [url=http://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk/rovers/Rovers-make-39genuine-offer39-to.4972446.jpTHIS[/url to fall back on.
Feel better?
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| I have had niggling doubts for a long time regarding the independence of both Castleford and Wakefield and they're not going away. The lack of activity surrounding Glasshoughton had me feeling very nervous and whilst I beleived that Thornes Park was always a non-starter I genuinely hoped Wakefield, along with Castleford would forge ahead and get new stadiums.
I felt that if Wakey looked at the possible locations of Durkar and Ossett/Lupset then they were just, and that's a big just, far away enough from Cas for us to push on with our own development.
I guess that what I'm struggling to put succinctly is that as soon as Wakefield announced the Stanley site, the first word that came to mind was MERGER. The site is slap bang in the middle of where the two clubs are, without really favouring either place (perhaps slightly in Wakey's favour).
I just get the feeling that it's all gearing up for a merger. I can't put my finger on it, but it just feels the same as it did years ago.
It is my opinion that the RFL want it more than ever, the Council ditto, Wakey have always been more resceptive to the idea and the only people blocking it are the Cas BoD.
I really hope I'm wrong, the vast majority of Cas fans, I think, would reject the stadium at Stanley as it's not in Cas and I feel it's too isolated from the centre of Wakefield to attract new fans from within Wakefield, or anywhere else for hat matter.
I'm more nervous now about the future of both Castleford and Wakefield than I have ever been. I hate being so cynical
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| Quote ="deeHell"Forgot to add, thats knows F**** All!
'" I know they ow my Company over 100k and declaire them self bankrupt and now trade under a diffrent name.
I would like say who will they get civals stuff off because supliers wont go neer them.but like you say i Know F all
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"I guess that what I'm struggling to put succinctly is that as soon as Wakefield announced the Stanley site, the first word that came to mind was MERGER. The site is slap bang in the middle of where the two clubs are, without really favouring either place (perhaps slightly in Wakey's favour).
I just get the feeling that it's all gearing up for a merger. I can't put my finger on it, but it just feels the same as it did years ago.
It is my opinion that the RFL want it more than ever, the Council ditto, Wakey have always been more resceptive to the idea and the only people blocking it are the Cas BoD.
I really hope I'm wrong, the vast majority of Cas fans, I think, would reject the stadium at Stanley as it's not in Cas and I feel it's too isolated from the centre of Wakefield to attract new fans from within Wakefield, or anywhere else for hat matter.'"
The reason Wakey seem more receptive to a groundshare is (to my mind) because they have to be. It was my initial hunch on hearing the news but the longer this goes on the more convinced I become. They know - as do we - what the RFL told them when they granted the franchises in 2008. "No plan B" and all that... This Stanley idea is clearly the last throw of the dice for them (they'll have no more viable chances before 2011) and the more they bang on about sharing the more it seems to me that they know they can't deliver anything there without Cas' help. It seems a sign of their utter desperation that they could even entertain the thought that Cas would walk away from Glasshoughton this close to it's delivery. In that sense I feel quite sorry for them, though I can't say I'm too happy that once again they seem to be prepared to try and scupper Cas' plans just to save their own skins.
I'm not claiming that everything's fully as it seems with Glasshoughton - I'm sure there are a few things being kept from us and for very good reason. Some Cas fans don't seem to want to accept that that's how it should be in these situations. Personally, I suspect I know why too but I won't speculate on here. However, of all those statements being issued by Wakey about preserving rugby in the "district" (yes, the connotation IS blatant), you should console yourself with the obvious fact that Cas aren't endorsing them. In fact, RW has reassured us that our plans are still very much alive and we've no intention of sharing. To me, that clearly shows that Wakey are pushing the possibilty of a share unilaterally. As I said.. everything points to the fact that they're on a desperate last throw of the dice.
Now, I don't know the future... perhaps they'll create enough spin around Stanley to weave themselves another ticket in 2011 - it's how they got this one with Thornes Park after all - and if they can do that then good luck to them. But Castleford's plans are to build and move into Glasshoughton and that's what we're focused on as a club, because we all know that if Cas move out of Cas it would spell the ultimate end for Castleford as a Rugby League identity. Don't be under any illusion though, Wakey know that too and it doesn't seem to bother them one jot.
Fortunately for us we're miles ahead in the race to build, because I honestly can't imagine there'd be any mercy whatsoever from Wakey if we were the ones behind.
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| As far as funding for J30 goes, keep your ears to the ground!
Two HUGE grants will be announced within the next month. Sport England & The Youth Sports Council will both commit to the project. Thats what you get for having men in charge with connections.
However untill they are announced the project will continue to get be frowned upon by some people.
With these grants and the market leading supermarket interested buying BV funding could be in place before the end of next month. With that in mind and the creation of jobs and future income there will be no problems getting PP.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"As far as funding for J30 goes, keep your ears to the ground!
Two HUGE grants will be announced within the next month. Sport England & The Youth Sports Council will both commit to the project. Thats what you get for having men in charge with connections.
However untill they are announced the project will continue to get be frowned upon by some people.
With these grants and the market leading supermarket interested buying BV funding could be in place before the end of next month. With that in mind and the creation of jobs and future income there will be no problems getting PP.'"
Why would we give a sh*t? Surely you should be telling this to your fellow Wakey fans, than on the Cas forum.
We honestly don't care about J30 as long as J32 continues to progress.
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