I watched the programme but you can't have done but made this all up as you're talking drivel.

What would you recommend mate? Some light training? Easy jogging?

I watched the interview and his mum stated that his team mates had been visiting him and how he was more mobile he was going down to the club.

The lad had a serious injury and needed rest and recuperation, what he didn't need was the club making him feel like they were putting him underpressure to get back to work! Now he is more mobile I have no doubt that he will be involved more but this will be taken at Richards pace.

To be honest I think you heard what you wanted to hear on the interview and blanked out the rest

More like he just made it all up and thought that no-one would notice.

I'm getting there Bonzo thanks...almost had a major setback down the lane a few weeks back when HKR fans kept trying to kick my crutches from under me


Worst thing was missing the win at Leeds after seeing us get hammered there over the last 10 years.

Owen should be on a rehab programme right from point 1. He is still able to do upper body work and also able to work his good leg, which will help his injured leg via a 30% training cross over.

Having one of the finest young talents in the game sat on his behind all day instead of getting started on his rehabilitation is criminal in my opinion.

Ignorance is no excuse.

And did it say that he had done none of these things?

Are you a doctor?

Any reason as to why you made up that guff on your original post regarding Richard Owen ?

One of the most ridiculous threads in a long time!

I'd like to see the efforts you'd be putting in with a broken leg in two places and an infection to make matters worse.

Fool

I did the same injury but worse as an 18 year old both sides of my leg needed plating and pinning and i was in pot for over 6 months, luckily for me at the time I was with a good rugby union club and my rehab started after the first month.

Am i a doctor.....no I am a Sports Science graduate, ex conditioning coach with a specialism in rehab.

Owen stated last night he had been doing nothing unable to train and sat on his backside all day, it would appear that if this is the case the entire backroom staff is not doing their job.

If rumours are true he will be well to be out of the club if he wants to reach his potential.

Maybe you should offer your services/expertise to the doctors and medical team seeing as you have so much in-depth information about Owen's condition at the moment.

Would you have worked with someone in isolation of a full medical history.....I think not.....but you are spouting off on the basis of a short, and almost certainly, edited TV interview.

With regard to your 'worse' injury (an amazing diagnosis without the benefit of comparitive x-rays etc) I don't know if you suffered an infection but a guy in LGI with me did and he had been confined to a hospital bed for 5 weeks and warned off pretty much everything except rest when he went home.

In the absence of input from Mr Owen's surgeon I don't think there's anything more to be said on this subject, even by a graduate who 'was with a good rugby union club'

I still think you're missing jonh's point of clearly wanting to overinflate a negative story from which a small number of facts have been deduced, in order to take a swipe at the club. To back up your point though, I would suggest that no two cases of such injuries will be alike and in the event of an infection, even non-medical people know that the best way to fight it is through rest.

Why would i want to do that? I do not post on the Cas board often if ever and actually wish the club well.

As I said ignorance to this condition may be acceptable from the fans but not from the medical team. Super League players are top athletes and it is about time at some clubs they were treated like it, i do not think it is any coincidence that the clubs with the least professional and invested in backroom staff usually can be found towards the bottom of the table.

I've seen little evidence from your posts in this thread to suggest that you 'wish the club well'.

Let's recap shall we:







That all seems pretty negative to me. Now why would the club wish to neglect such a huge prospect such as Richard Owen? Just because he hasn't been able to do much, doesn't mean it's down to the club. What club in their right minds would go against the advice of medical specialists in rehabilitating an injury as serious as he suffered?

As I said previously, no two cases of such injuries are ever likely to be the same and just because an alleged poorly edited snippet on Boots 'n' All suggests that his injury is being handled differently to yours was, doesn't mean that he's being neglected. You don't know the facts, none of us do, excepting that we don't expect to see him playing again until next season at the earliest.

Just answer this one simple question:- Do you have access to Richard Owen's medical records and recommended course of treatment? If 'yes' then well done, if 'no' then STFU.

Re: The bold bit, really? Are you now also privvy to the complete staff roster for each SL club or is it another pish poor attempt at trolling?

Given I have worked at several SL clubs in the capacity of rehab and conditioning across the spectrum from top middle and bottom I have a good idea of what goes on.

The reason for my concern is that we have struggled so long at international level, it appears now we have a young lad with the potential to be a great player, the correct rehab could ensure he reaches that potential, incorrect rehab and we could never see him go on to make the most of himself.

I understand you are all defensive at the moment so fair play I will leave it at that, not on here to row, simply to highlight a concern about the club you follow.

All the best.

Jonh

If you were not here to argue then why did you bother with your original post as you must have known that what you said is garbage ?

Thanks for the patronising response, 'not on here to row', with a series of inflammatory posts, what did you expect? ...and you didn't answer my one simple question.

Am I a doctor ..... no. Am I a t*t .........yes.

So after 72 games Richard Owen is still breaking into the 1st team!

I quite agree with jonh on this one. When I was 21, I broke both my arms and legs is a bizarre accident at Saville Park. I also suffered severe concussion, vomiting, diarrhoea, bruised elbows and the loss of all my teeth and hair. I almost died and had to be revived twice on the operating table. The staff at PGI wrapped my arms and legs in Band Aids and sticks from the bushes on the car park, and I was back playing prop for Cas the following day. If it wasn't for the well-informed, professional treatment I received that day, just like the stuff recommended by jonh, I'd never have scored that hat trick of tries in a bruising win away to St. Helens in that very comeback match. And, do you know, I've never suffered any ill effects, infections, or further complications of any kind.

Well said jonh

As has already been said, no two injuries are the same and we don't know that much about Richie's injury or exactly what he has been told to do. But it's clear he has been told to rest, after suffering a break, having an operation and a plate/pins put in, plus the infection which set him back even more.

Having suffered the same kind of break, operation, pins and even a smelly infection with it, i can't see anything wrong so far in his recovery. It's lots of rest, lots of boredom and lots of watching everyone else do what you can't do. Richie just has to deal with it and keep looking forward to getting back on the field and doing what he loves.