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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"So there are no links to our 'financial problems' but yours are public knowledge ??? Bit funny that if we are both 'in the same boat'
Glass houses ??? We have never been in admin or spent what we can't afford at the expense of the club where as Wakefield have done and look like doing it again. tbh I feel this is down to a culture at Wakefield of 'let's finish above Cas at any expense' that's hurting your club.'"
Didn't your then CEO Steve Ferres publicly claim the the club was in a precarious position before launching its member ship. Your money problems are well documented from that meeting.
Yes we went in admin, so have Bradford and London in recent years whats your point? we were punished accordingly (although circumstances worked favorably in the end) [size=150We are at present a loss making club and so is the majority of SL including Cas Tigers.[/size By going on what the respective clubs big wigs say, Wakefield have a lower playing buget than Cas. I'll bet we consistently have spent less than Cas on our wages over the last few years although I suspect the difference is small. We were never busting the bank to win Challenge Cups and SL titles like Bradford. We always spent enough to survive and Ted was underwriting the losses until he went bust and took some his share back out of the club at the worst possible time. I think your a bit short sighted in your view of us a club to suggest we have a "lets finish above Cas at any expense" mentality.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Another point to note regarding Mariano - Wakey wanted CT to take him now to help their wage bill and Cas said they didn't want to do that. Next season will be fine.'"
Why would we want to go now when we was fighting to get him back from Fev. What proof do we have of this or is it just more rumors?
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| Quote ="deeHell"When did Mariano not get his paid wages due from Wakefield? Link please???'"
As soon as you put the link up to where I said he hadn't got wages due from Wakefield in the past.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"if Cas offered him more than wakey (IF!) then it may be due to the fact that they didn't have much more to spend. You guys have already signed a couple for next year, maybe they were taking up the money available?
If he was on 40k, wakey may have said "we cannot afford to increase your wage due to the funds being made available elsewhere" .....cas said "ok we will offer you 45k"
it doesn't seem like wakey "weren't bothered" about keeping him, if they were negotiating a contract - clubs just don't renew them if they aren't bothered.
Cash strapped or not, if you aren't bothered about keeping a player, why negotiate to keep paying his wages?
..........Not that any of that really matters anyway'"
Or more likely was put his value at 40k and not a penny more considering he would more than likely been a back up player.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"As soon as you put the link up to where I said he hadn't got wages due from Wakefield in the past.
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Weres the straw clutching? You've made a statement that Frankie Mariano didn't get paid his due wages from us. I don't believe that, in our recent documented troubles I know that all players have been paid. So were has this information come from?
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| Quote ="deeHell"Weres the straw clutching? You've made a statement that Frankie Mariano didn't get paid his due wages from us. I don't believe that, in our recent documented troubles I know that all players have been paid. So were has this information come from?'"
Read over, I suggested next year he may not due to your financial situation. And let's be honest you have form in that regard as a club don't you.
My fault really I assumed you had read and understood the thread before contributing. Sorry
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| Quote ="deeHell"Or more likely was put his value at 40k and not a penny more considering he would more than likely been a back up player.'"
well, aye, whatever... As I say it doesn't really matter, it just seemed like that'd been an overlooked possibility.
Either way, if Wakefield didn't want him they wouldn't have offered him 40p let alone 40k
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| Pleased with the Mariano signing always seem to play well when I saw him for Wakefield.
Think he will be a good replacement for Thompson (on current form).
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| Quote ="bigalf"New coach. Players not in his plans for next season?'"
I'm struggling to see which overseas player we're terminating when all overseas players have contracts for next season and would cost a bomb to just terminate.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"well, aye, whatever... As I say it doesn't really matter, it just seemed like that'd been an overlooked possibility.
Either way, if Wakefield didn't want him they wouldn't have offered him 40p let alone 40k'"
Especially when they need the £40k badly to pay HMRC etc etc etc.
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| Quote ="Fully"I'm struggling to see which overseas player we're terminating when all overseas players have contracts for next season and would cost a bomb to just terminate.'"
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| Mr Gill said there is no way they will terminate his contract the other week on radio, he also said he wouldn't be selling Clark, so we will see if he is the man of his word I think he is, or telling us what we want to hear, but I don't think he his.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Webster.'"
Webster isn't off anywhere. Gill said he wasn't terminating his contract and he's raring to go next season - he was at CTSC meeting tonight.
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| 2 new players to be announced for next year at the end of this season. It was said at last nights meeting. No idea who they are.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"2 new players to be announced for next year at the end of this season. It was said at last nights meeting. No idea who they are.'"
Any comment given regarding the future of Ranj ???
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Any comment given regarding the future of Ranj ???'"
No - it was all talk about the new league structures. Toulouse are applying for SL2 for 2015 was mentioned. Any club going into administration would be heavily penalised also under the new format.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"No - it was all talk about the new league structures. Toulouse are applying for SL2 for 2015 was mentioned. Any club going into administration would be heavily penalised also under the new format.'"
Can't say disagree with any of that tbh, admin clubs especially have it far far to easy. Cheers for ye update
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Any comment given regarding the future of Ranj ???'"
It was skirted over in the second meeting but no direct Q and A given.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"2 new players to be announced for next year at the end of this season. It was said at last nights meeting. No idea who they are.'"
Next month it was said to us.
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| I wouldn't be surprised if Langley is one of the players to be announced shortly. He had quite a good game last night against Hull FC.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I wouldn't be surprised if Langley is one of the players to be announced shortly. He had quite a good game last night against Hull FC.'"
He was MoM for me
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| Langley played very well last night, He is normally Mr Independent always wanting to run the ball in and solid in defense. Hoping he stays at Bradford but would be a good signing for you
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| Don't think it'll be Langley if im honest.
Depends how much money he wants and being a one club man, whether he could play to his usual high standards on a consistent basis for another club.
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| Quote ="Fully"Don't think it'll be Langley if im honest.
Depends how much money he wants and being a one club man, whether he could play to his usual high standards on a consistent basis for another club.'"
He is apparently one of their biggest earners and for that reason, I would hope he isn't one. Unless its on a drastically reduced contract - From what I have seen the last couple of years - He is a 50-60k a year player, And guessing he is on more than that at the Bulls
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| He will be on more than that - he's just had a testimonial so Bulls can afford to pay him more with the rest not counting on the cap.
It's why I'm surprised they're not keeping him. Extra squad member and it leaves space for another signing.
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