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| Quote ="yellow_t-shirt"Do you know what, I quite like Hull as a team, but I cannot believe the arrogance of some of there fans on here!!!
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Think it is more at Gronk who has been on the Hull board all week with his inside knowledge.
I think this deal will suit both clubs, Hull can a halfback we have needed for about 5 years, Cas get some money and a huge amount of salary cap space to use to sign a couple of good players.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Think it is more at Gronk who has been on the Hull board all week with his inside knowledge. '"
Never claimed "inside knowledge" just the same stuff from Hull fans for numerous years finally seems to be right...you'll have to excuse the skepticism when it comes to rumours from Hull.
Quote ="Dave K."I think this deal will suit both clubs, Hull can a halfback we have needed for about 5 years, Cas get some money and a huge amount of salary cap space to use to sign a couple of good players.'"
I doubt the squad will see anything close to "good" players, it'll be more Championship quality dross.
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| Quote ="yellow_t-shirt"Do you know what, I quite like Hull as a team, but I cannot believe the arrogance of some of there fans on here!!!
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I think its just banter nothing personal as you probably know Cas are most Hull fans second team infact we like you that much it would seems we'll sign anybody whose passed through the place.
I wish we'd sign your cheerleaders ours are $hit.
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| Quote ="major black"I think its just banter nothing personal as you probably know Cas are most Hull fans second team infact we like you that much it would seems we'll sign anybody whose passed through the place.
I wish we'd sign your cheerleaders ours are $hit.'"
Tbh it doesn't irk me that he may have signed it's the fact that some are saying we'll chuck cas 50/60k , chicken feed to our chairman, when we all know his real worth,but it's only little old cas so it doesn't matter!
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| Quote ="yellow_t-shirt"Tbh it doesn't irk me that he may have signed it's the fact that some are saying we'll chuck cas 50/60k , chicken feed to our chairman, when we all know his real worth,but it's only little old cas so it doesn't matter!'"
I would hope that hull fc have conducted themselves in a proper manner and in any purchase negotiation the outcome has to be win win, nobody will be putting a gun to your boards head to accept the offer. I believe it will be a good offer but not £350+k. As for the comments some have made don't bite as once you start feeding the trolls they'll thrive off of it.
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| Quote ="yellow_t-shirt"Tbh it doesn't irk me that he may have signed it's the fact that some are saying we'll chuck cas 50/60k , chicken feed to our chairman, when we all know his real worth,but it's only little old cas so it doesn't matter!'"
Just laugh at 'em mate. Hull FC provide a regular source of income into the Cas coffers. When in recent times did they signed a player from Cas who went on to be a world beater and win some silverware for them?
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| Quote ="Big Man"Just laugh at 'em mate. Hull FC provide a regular source of income into the Cas coffers. When in recent times did they signed a player from Cas who went on to be a world beater and win some silverware for them?'"
2005?
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"2005?
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Was that the year you won at Wembly, oh hang on a minute.......
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| Quote ="Big Man"Was that the year you won at Wembly, oh hang on a minute.......'"
No Cardiff, We've never won at wembley.
I'm more interested in us winning trophies than where we win them to be fair.
will be interesting to see if any player is moving in the other direction or if us releasing ellis early was part of the deal
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| Quote ="Big Man"Was that the year you won at Wembly, oh hang on a minute.......'"
lets be fair mate, if you want to go there, tell me how many championships youve won?? simple fact is weve won3 challenge cups, end of story... think we smashed you the semi of one of them if youd care to take a look at this footage.....
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| I told you the other day Chase was going but heard another club had come in for him as well as Hull Need to sort Visa out but if all goes well he will be gone and for a lot less than people thought.
I also said that the problem at the club was certain players and not Millward but Gronk and a few other didn't agree (wonder what they think now) When Hudson goes you will of released alot of salary cap money to bring some new players in that your coach wants not players that want to do what they want Chase going will be the second best move the club has made don't know what Hull are thinking
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| Quote ="jtfev"I also said that the problem at the club was certain players and not Millward but Gronk and a few other didn't agree (wonder what they think now)'"
Erm no, it's most of the squad wanting to leave BECAUSE of Millward.
They hate him, they want out and I don't blame them.
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| Why don't they like him because he wants them to do as there told and be more professional and not go out drinking before a match I could go on Most of your team won't leave now certain players have/are going The next big thingthe club need to do is let you fans know what's going on be honest with what's going to happen then you can get behind them and move forward
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| Shock horror...half the team is out of contract and they are leaving? Insightful!
Fans have known for months there's going to be a massive upheaval of the squad, but selling Chase is a joke, it opens the flood gates who's next Clark? Huby? Emmitt?
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| I am not going to say he is coming to hull but chase wants out of cas. The clubs failure to reach his ambition has prompted this. Cas will accept lower then 300k as rangi is on too much money to not have his heart in it.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Erm no, it's most of the squad wanting to leave BECAUSE of Millward.
They hate him, they want out and I don't blame them.'"
Get a grip man. How do you even know all this. Millward cannot be that bad to have signed players like Shenton, Webster and Gilmour. Also, wasn't Millward pictured with Rangi when he signed his new deal last season? Rangi's head has been turned by outside influences so let's get the best possible price for him(anything over £250K) and use that £250 with Rangi's rumoured £200K salary on signing 5 or 6 quality players. Add those 5 or 6 to Shenton, Webster, Ellis, Tansey, Gilmour, Dixon, Huby, Emmitt, Clark, Milner, Holmes, Walker, Massey, etc and we have a far stronger squad than we have done in the past few years.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Never claimed "inside knowledge"
just the same stuff from Hull fans for numerous years finally seems to be right...you'll have to excuse the skepticism when it comes to rumours from Hull.
I doubt the squad will see anything close to "good" players, it'll be more Championship quality dross.'"
First time I'd mentioned it tbh. Wasn't anything personal but I was just stating the facts and that is exactly what they were regardless of how much you said I was making it up..
This is far better for Cas as although (like I said) the fee isn't so high, you save a fortune pro rata, which is exactly what you need!!
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"First time I'd mentioned it tbh. Wasn't anything personal but I was just stating the facts and that is exactly what they were regardless of how much you said I was making it up..'"
Wasn't aimed specifically at you, it's Hull fans in general every year since he's signed for Cas have been giving it the 100% nailed on to happen blah blah blah so there's a reason nobody believed it.
Quote ="FC Wembley 08"This is far better for Cas as although (like I said) the fee isn't so high, you save a fortune pro rata, which is exactly what you need!!'"
Anything under 300k and Ferres has already lost my confidence, it's an utter joke selling the best player at the club just to appease the egotistical head coach.
As for claiming Cas "need" the money, give over Cas are doing fine, if anything the wages will go into 2-3 players (who no doubt will be Championship level, old or injury prone).
Castleford Tigers - tell the fans there needs to be an increase in season ticket sales....then sell off the best players, they certainly know how to get fans excited
Then when ST sales are down next year they will once again try and blame the fans for having a poor squad, it's the Cas way, treat the fans like utter and live with the mediocrity.
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| Quote ="Fumper27"Get a grip man. How do you even know all this. Millward cannot be that bad to have signed players like Shenton, =#0000FFWebster and Gilmour. Also, wasn't Millward pictured with Rangi when he signed his new deal last season? Rangi's head has been turned by outside influences so let's get the best possible price for him(anything over £250K) and use that £250 with Rangi's rumoured £200K salary on signing 5 or 6 quality players. Add those 5 or 6 to Shenton, Webster, Ellis, =#0000FFTansey, Gilmour, Dixon, Huby, Emmitt, Clark, Milner, Holmes, Walker, Massey, etc and we have a far stronger squad than we have done in the past few years.'"
Have to say I'm curious as to where they'll be playing next year. Can't see Webster and Gilmour being left out with the likely wages they'll be inline for, and Shenton's all but guaranteed one of the centre spots. One of them must be earmarked for the second row instead, which which one do you guys reckon it will be? Gilmour?
Tansey will be interesting too, can fit in to a few positions, but you seem reasonably strong in his those he suits best (fullback, centre, possibly hooker). I can only really think of halfback or a bench player. If Chase is going could he be your 6?
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| Quote ="jtfev"Why don't they like him because =#0000FFhe wants them to do as there told and be more professional and not go out drinking before a match I could go on Most of your team won't leave now certain players have/are going The next big thingthe club need to do is let you fans know what's going on be honest with what's going to happen then you can get behind them and move forward'"
If that's the problem he's having with players it seems a strange move to sign Tansey.
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| Quote Have to say I'm curious as to where they'll be playing next year. Can't see Webster and Gilmour being left out with the likely wages they'll be inline for, and Shenton's all but guaranteed one of the centre spots. One of them must be earmarked for the second row instead, which which one do you guys reckon it will be? Gilmour?
Tansey will be interesting too, can fit in to a few positions, but you seem reasonably strong in his those he suits best (fullback, centre, possibly hooker). I can only really think of halfback or a bench player. If Chase is going could he be your 6?
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....what a load of garbage that looks.
Gilmour looked scared to run the ball in yesterday, Tansey is below average and the pack is light weight. Not to mention Webster will probably move into the physios room, not the centres.
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| I do know his wages are a stumbling block. No club can match what hes on at cas....so we'll see.
Rangi chase does want out of the club,the reason being as one poster as already said, the players at the club arnt good enough.
Also the club have said chase wont play to the stucture hes asked to.
So imo both should part company.
As for him being the best half back in SL, take a look at young elllis in the game last sunday.
Thats what you call a TEAM player. The whole team played far better in that one game than any game all season.
Rangi who.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Tansey
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....what a load of garbage that looks.
Gilmour looked scared to run the ball in yesterday, Tansey is below average and the pack is light weight. Not to mention Webster will probably move into the physios room, not the centres.'"
I thought Owen was secure as your fullback? I've always thought he looks a decent player TBH, would Tansey really be a better option?
On saying that, to be fair to Tansey I'd say that when at Hull he was very good when on his game. The problem was making that the case more than half the time, as he also has stupid errors in his game, concentration issues, and can be shaky under the high ball. Capable of magic and madness.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I thought Owen was secure as your fullback? I've always thought he looks a decent player TBH, would Tansey really be a better option?
On saying that, to be fair to Tansey I'd say that when at Hull he was very good when on his game. The problem was making that the case more than half the time, as he also has stupid errors in his game, concentration issues, and can be shaky under the high ball. Capable of magic and madness.'"
Your description of Tansey pretty much sums up Owen this season
Ryan Brierley should be the full back next season, he's out with Leigh at the minute but I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up at Hull too, plays fullback, stand off and scrum half.
2 rumours that cover the 2 new signings in the backs though were Lote Tuqiri (so Webster doesn't get lonely in the physios room I presume, also HIGHLY unlikely surely) and Thomas Bosc (which went quiet rather quickly, unfortunately)
Looking at that team though you could add Morris, Cronk & Gallen and it would still struggle to finish in the top 10 nevermind make the playoffs.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"
On saying that, to be fair to Tansey I'd say that when at Hull he was very good when on his game. The problem was making that the case more than half the time, as he also has stupid errors in his game, concentration issues, and can be shaky under the high ball. Capable of magic and madness.'"
That pretty much matches my opinion of the lad when he was at Leeds. Bags of talent, but needs to focus it properly. If he's well coached, he will be a good signing for Cas.
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