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| Quote ="Pieman"he was already running forward, and yes he run past the balls line thus making it backwards in relativity to the player passing the ball once received. Which is the rule.'"
The flight of the ball is judged relative to the passer, not to where the passer is when the catcher takes the ball.
Chase was not moving forward with the momentukm to legally have made the ball travel as it did, hence a forward pass.
What you describe would allow a player to "quarterback" a pass, as long as he ran forward enough before it was caught.
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| Quote ="dboy"The flight of the ball is judged relative to the passer, not to where the passer is when the catcher takes the ball.
Chase was not moving forward with the momentukm to legally have made the ball travel as it did, hence a forward pass.
What you describe would allow a player to "quarterback" a pass, as long as he ran forward enough before it was caught.'"
he was running forward with velocity, he was yards in front of the player when they caught the ball, how fast do you think he is as they were bullet passes. The passer is running forward, passes the ball in a backward motion when moving forward and is the ball ends up in a backwards position in relation to the passer...legit pass.
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| You can't be educated can you?
OK, let's use your version of the rules (and Newton's Law)...Chase is running forward, passes the ball which retains his momentum, and as he does he is stopped dead in his tracks by a solid tackle. The ball is then caught in front of Chase.
What is your decision?
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| Quote ="dboy"You can't be educated can you?
OK, let's use your version of the rules (and Newton's Law)...Chase is running forward, passes the ball which retains his momentum, and as he does he is stopped dead in his tracks by a solid tackle. The ball is then caught in front of Chase.
What is your decision?'"
forward pass, it has happened and been given.
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| Quote ="Pieman"forward pass'"
I rest my case!
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| Quote ="Pieman"forward pass, it has happened and been given.'"
And at this point you made yourself look silly
As a Leeds fan I thought they were both Ok but there was never a clear cut replay which showed it so it's hard to criticise the ref. Someone on our forum claims to have been in line and thought they were both forward.
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| Quote ="dboy"I rest my case!'"
Really?...give up quick.
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| Ah, school exam tests, I like these.
From the examples below, give the correct refereeing decision. Base your answers on the facts given in the examples only.
Example 1;
Guy wearing blue and pink shirt throws ball forward. Answer: Play on
Example 2;
Guy wearing black and amber shirt throws ball forward. Answer: Forward pass.
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| Quote ="Andy R"And at this point you made yourself look silly
As a Leeds fan I thought they were both Ok but there was never a clear cut replay which showed it so it's hard to criticise the ref. [uSomeone on our forum claims to have been in line and thought they were both forward[/u.'"
must be true then
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| Quote ="Pieman"Really?...give up quick.'"
What do you do for a living?
Are you a former grade 2 referee, who works in full time education as a lecturer in Scientific Principles on a Sports and Exercise Science Course?
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| Quote ="dboy"What do you do for a living?
Are you a former grade 2 referee, who works in full time education as a lecturer in Scientific Principles on a Sports and Exercise Science Course?'"
nope, would that make a difference though?
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| Quote ="marshman"Ah, school exam tests, I like these.
From the examples below, give the correct refereeing decision. Base your answers on the facts given in the examples only.
Example 1;
Guy wearing blue and pink shirt throws ball forward. Answer: Play on
Example 2;
Guy wearing black and amber shirt throws ball forward. Answer: Forward pass.'"
Your's is a rubbish test.
The answers are included with the questions!
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| Quote ="Pieman"nope, would that make a difference though?'"
Just that I would expect such a person to know what they were on about.
Thought it must be you.
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| Quote ="dboy"Your's is a rubbish test.
The answers are included with the questions!'"
I thought you were supposed to be an ex-referee!
The answers are always included in refereeing tests. You don't make up your own rules, you use the answers provided. If you'd ever been an actual referee you'd have known that.
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| So Chase is running forward he passes the ball on the 10 metre line - the catcher catches the ball 5 metres from the line but Chase is 4 metres from the line when he pass is caught - how is that not a forward pass?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"So Chase is running forward he passes the ball on the 10 metre line - the catcher catches the ball 5 metres from the line but Chase is 4 metres from the line when he pass is caught - how is that not a forward pass?'"
It's got nothing to do with where Chase was when the ball is caught!!!!
It's the momentum he had when he passed the ball. Now, for your scenario, if he was sprinting forward at something like 25 m/s...then he would be in the Olympics, not in RL.
You are right. It's a forward pass.
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| Quote ="dboy"It's got nothing to do with where Chase was when the ball is caught, it's all to do with what colour shirt he had on!!!!
You are right. It's a forward pass.'"
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| Hence Newton observed that;
"Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force or Rangi Chase is applied to it".
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| They let us down tonight ????? No not tonight no forward power against another bent ref no wonder we ran out of steam let the whinos have there day but come the final play offs watch for the tigers biting the whinos on the !!!!
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| Quote ="tigersfoot"They let us down tonight ????? No not tonight no forward power against another bent ref no wonder we ran out of steam let the whinos have there day but come the final play offs watch for the tigers biting the whinos on the booty!!!!'"
This thread was initially started after the Wakey match mate. It's kind of been hijacked now though!
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| Quote ="Pieman"must be true then
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I never said it was.
I told you my thoughts which went against my own team.
The example of a player being hit after he passed it has made you look daft. He would still have his momentum when he let go of the ball. Some of the other points are debateable. That isn't
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| Quote ="cas all the way"They werent forward end of. The ball didnt even go forward.
Lads did us proud tonight. Poor last 20mins but the scoreline does not reflect the game at all.'"
Scoreline flattered Leeds IMO, although their defence really was excellent. Until the game got away from them, thought your boys showed the kind of application that would have been rewarded with tries on any other night.
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| Quote ="Captain Library"Scoreline flattered Leeds IMO, although their defence really was excellent. Until the game got away from them, thought your boys showed the kind of application that would have been rewarded with tries on any other night.'"
Agreed.
I walked away from the ground tonight pleased with the effort but feeling hard done by and that the scoreline was harsh on a Cas side that really deserved more than the 6 point showing they had.
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| Quote ="Fully"
I walked away from the ground tonight pleased with the effort but feeling hard done by and that the scoreline was harsh on a <Wakey> side that really deserved more than the 6 point showing they had.'"
You are a Trin fan and I claim my £5
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| Quote dboy wrote:What do you do for a living?
Are you a former grade 2 referee, who works in full time education as a lecturer in [uScientific Principles on a Sports and Exercise Science Course[/u?'"
Bit of an exaggeration dboy?
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