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| Quote ="danny boy1"I think you have it wrong there, he didn't fling the ball because of a lack of guts, he does it because he's the type of player who likes to keep the ball alive.!
He's got loads of guts, just take a look at his big hits, anyone without guts wouldn't attempt such a tackle.
Put Sione in a team like the Saints and he would look much more impressive, as other players would support him when he had the ball, they throw passes out seemingly willy nilly but because they support the man with the ball better than we do, the ball tends to stick. Did you see how Sean Long squirmed a pass out to no one, yet because of the backing up Saints were able to make something of it.
I'm not saying Sione's right throwing passes out every time that he does, but that is his style of play ...and whilst he should be more selective with his passing, our guys should support him (and others) better than they are and then we might reap the rewards that seem to come all too often to St. Helens.
But to get back to your point PM, he threw out a pass because he quite rightly thought there was something on, not because of a lack of bottle but unfortunately the pass wasn't executed as well as it could have been and the move came to nought.'"
he needs to be able to catch the ball befoe he even thinks about passing it!
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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"Are you seriously suggesting that Sione's failed offloads are responsible for Joe's injury?
Get a grip.'"
No i did'nt say it was sione's fault.
I said joe had to rectify or try to rectify a stupid pass from sione.
I dont need to get a grip i'm quite level headed thanks
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| The Injury was a pure accident But I do have to say says it all when we was taken off after 7 minutes.
Matterson said some of the guys are gona be under the pump this week he has to be one.
I would bench him for this week and let him know he gotta up his game to get back in. Injuries permitting of course.
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| He's lucky there's a load of injuries otherwise he would be lucky to make the bench the way he's been playing, Widders (in the limited game time he's got so far) has looked better, Jones & Ferres are no brainers, as is Westerman - that really leaves no room for Faumuina, a week or 2 in the reserves would probably be the kick up the jacksy he needs too.
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| Quote ="playdaball"that should read boot'"
that is the most ridiculous statement i have ever read in line with what has happened over the last twelve months.....warrants a ban from the site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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| Quote ="mirfieldcat"that is the most ridiculous statement i have ever read in line with what has happened over the last twelve months.....warrants a ban from the site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1'"
Ditto
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| Quote ="danny boy1"He's got loads of guts, just take a look at his big hits, anyone without guts wouldn't attempt such a tackle.
Now I've read it all. Guts? You've got to be kidding
The very first minute of Sundays game showed the level of guts, looking at the defence coming to tackle him instead of the ball-sums his season up.
As for big hits
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| Quote ="Tigerpie"Quote ="danny boy1"He's got loads of guts, just take a look at his big hits, anyone without guts wouldn't attempt such a tackle.
Now I've read it all. Guts? You've got to be kidding
The very first minute of Sundays game showed the level of guts, looking at the defence coming to tackle him instead of the ball-sums his season up.
As for big hits
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I've been to every single game this season and seen Sione put in big hits in several of them. If he gets his timing wrong in executing such a tackle, then he would be the one splattered all over the ground...
...and looking at the defender when a player is going to receive the ball doesn't constitute a lack of bottle, it's something that happens to all players from time to time, generally when they are thinking ahead as to what they will do with the ball when they get it and how the oncoming tackler will impact on that.
As I've said a number of times, get behind Sione and I'm sure he will deliver the goods, he does seem to perform better in away games where supporters do tend to get behind the players more readily.
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