4th place finish last season then got to the final eliminator, thats awful I know what you mean.

We did it the season before aswell, we must be really rubish.

Only 4th place for the self-proclaimed greatest club in the world?

You won the same amount of silverware as the team that finshed bottom and that makes you as crap as us.

I was just defending the fact that Wigan had been called rubbish.

Getting to 3 semi-finals in 2 years is not rubbish.

Your final comment is laughable. We won more games than you, and lost less. We did better head to head.

Yet somehow Wigan and Castleford are on a par.

Don't insult us from your paltry 12th place in the table.

No Cas are a far better team than Wigan could ever hope to be.

Hope he wasn't causing any bother!

You know, you're right. We're not on a par at all.

10 Castleford 1 0 0 1 8 12 0
11 Warrington 1 0 0 1 14 26 0
12 Wigan 2 0 0 2 16 30 0

So come the end of 80 minutes this Friday, we'll be 2 points clear with a healthy +70 points difference and a game in hand too.

Nobody remembers who got 4th place or to the semi final, they only remember trophy winners and Wigan won as many as Cas last year.

OK I'll accept your not as crap as Cas, just a bit crap.

How can any Wigan fan believe what they write when they say Wigan are a good side, and better than Cas? If it Weren't for the fact there are fourteen teams in this division this season instead of twelve you'd be in a much worse position. When Catalan win their game in hand Wigan will be 13th and that will be where they will stay for the rest of this season, just ahead of a side that was only formed about a week ago in a Welsh WMC. TBH, i've seen glimpses of Celtic that show they can certainly push Wigan close this season. Think yourself lucky you got a franchise and can now build on it. Try and invest in some youth and bring through some players and maybe one day you can have as many local kids playing for your side as Harlequins and Catalan are doing, they're showing you the way forward. Maybe then you can compete with the likes of Wakey, Cas and Hudds week in week out.

Good luck on friday, hope it's a good game and we don't just run away with it, knocking up a cricket score. That's no good for SL and will do your club no good in the long run. Keep supporting your team and maybe you can get through these tough times!

"Try and invest in some youth and bring through some players and maybe one day you can have as many local kids playing for your side as Harlequins and Catalan are doing"

=red[size=150One of the new academy lads from westhoughton (4 miles from wigan) was offered the same deal at wigan and decided his future lay with cas[/size

Mate, that's the lure of the big clubs. Teams like Wigan will always struggle to keep local talent, that's why they always have to buy second rate aussies.

You cas fans are really strange.

Your going to judge who is better from the 1 game you have played and the 2 we have played.

You think that we are crap even though we have finished 3rd for the last 2 seasons and reached 1 semi final.

If thats you normal cas fans I really do wonder what rubbish the bitter cas fans might come our with.

You really don't get it do you?

Have you ever thought that we might be winding you up? Look back through the posts and read them with that thought in mind. See how clear it all becomes...

Then clearly you did not notice my comment about the bitter fans, dear me.

Didn't you previously say you finished FOURTH in the last two seasons and made the play-off elimination semi-finals in both...?

And quoted to back up my previous post...

Oh dear.....

I hope you are right about the ill feeling going mate. I have always had a lot of time for Castleford, we have had some great visits to the Jungle over the years and were very impressed with what a friendly club it was.

Like you say I hope people can move past what happened and things will go back to what they were. The people responsible for what happened have gone thankfully.

I wont let the ill feeling go, Wigan did cheat to survive, No questions asked - And unless were going to get players like Manu back, Then all is not right

4th in the table but the actual end of season positions go off where you come in the play-offs, the prize money is also dished out this way, although the team who wins the hubcap wins a little I think.

If we are to win Friday we have to put away the chances we create. Too many times Sunday we had decent field position and wasted it with crap last play options EG Sione kicking through the sticks on the last (i actually thought it was a drop goal attempt) and Rangi's crappy dummys then passing the ball behind the centre and winger. We competed up front Sunday and i think we are ok in the forwards but our attack has to be clinical (sp). Get a try early doors and complete our sets and we could be in with a chance.

I think we might be better if we play Ryan Mcg and Netherton in the halves.
Going by the last part of the Fev friendly and the last 6/7 mins of the Quins game Netherton has looked decent in the halves. Least he spreads the ball out wide which is more than can be said of Rangi and Sione

What is his name and I will tell you whether that's true or not...

Unfortunately some of the ill feeling does still remain, but more with the younger fans who weren't around, or old enough to appreciate the intense rivalry between the two clubs in the 80s and early 90s. This rivalry always made for some classic entertaining games and I'd welcome the return of that.

It's a shame that a couple of irresponsible invdividuals have dragged the reputation of your club through a ditch and tarnished that great rivalry, but as you say, they're gone and all I (and most Cas fans) want to see now are some more Cas v Wigan classics.