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| Quote ="brearley84"since when did crabtree, lawrence, cudjoe, mcgillvary, hemingway, raleigh
play for wigan under 21's??'"
Didn't Raleigh come from Hull KR?????????????
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| Quote ="brearley84"get your stadium built instead of promising the rfl your going to do it
can see big problems for you, wakey and salford if it isnt sorted soon....
halifax, widnes and leigh are ready to take your place
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Its not that easy all you have is a stadium thats it. Davey is your sugar daddy.
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| Quote ="tb"Personally I'd like to congratulate brearley84, whose moron contribution helped ensure that this is the first stadium thread not to degenerate into a Cas trolls v Wakey trolls slanging match
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| getting back to the topic,
(and remember this is just a hypothetical-stay calm people- no scratching the monitor)
If it were only temporary (3 years or less guaranteed) would you come to the Wakefield Community Stadium at j30--- or---- stay at WR and spend 3 (maybe more) years outside super league, until j32 was completed?
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"If it were only temporary (3 years or less guaranteed) would you come to the Wakefield Community Stadium at j30--- or---- stay at WR and spend 3 (maybe more) years outside super league, until j32 was completed?'"
It's a moot point, given that ours is far more likely to be built before yours.
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| I would be devastated if we even had to play 5 minutes in a ground that isn't in Castleford.
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| Quote ="Disco"It's a moot point, given that ours is far more likely to be built before yours.
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explain, we have funding, planning permission will come in no less than 7 weeks, final designs due in 2 weeks (isnt that what RW said Cas were doing ATM), BV has been sold, as soon as PP comes (which is being pushed through faster than kebab on friday night!) we have a goer.
Has the situation been sorted out with the developer who was due to move onto WR, people on the other forum are far less positive.
Until either starts building i don't think either can claim to be anywhere ahead of the other clubs.
The fact remains though that out of all the CEO's and head honchos grafting to build a new ground is there anymore credible and able than Sir Rodney Walker.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"explain, we have funding, planning permission will come in no less than 7 weeks, final designs due in 2 weeks (isnt that what RW said Cas were doing ATM), BV has been sold, as soon as PP comes (which is being pushed through faster than kebab on friday night!) we have a goer.
Has the situation been sorted out with the developer who was due to move onto WR, people on the other forum are far less positive.
Until either starts building i don't think either can claim to be anywhere ahead of the other clubs.
The fact remains though that out of all the CEO's and head honchos grafting to build a new ground is there anymore credible and able than Sir Rodney Walker.'"
On the other forum they are allways negative, if we won the grand final and the cup they would still moan.
As for planning permission you havent got it yet and you as an individual wont have a clue if you likely to get it or not, same with funding. i seem to recall some wakey fans seeing thornes park as a dead cert too.
I would question your objectivity on the matter as on your own forum you type c*s instead of cas, which i thought only fev fans were sad enough to do.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"explain...'"
I don't think I really need to but...
When Thornes Park was still on both our stadia were progressing very roughly in parallel. When it fell through it put Wakey seriously behind the eight ball - you had to start again from scratch and Cas leapt into the lead in terms of finishing first. By your own admission you don't yet have even outline planning permission and frankly I'm dubious about both the (whole of the) funding you need plus the blind faith you seem to have in Sir Rodney's ability wave his magic wand and create you a Disneyland.
To be honest though, given that Wakey fans have consistently spent the last God knows how many years gleefully pointing out to Cas fans just how mine-strewn and protracted the planning and construction processes are, it does seem rather laughable how quickly you've forgotten your own words now.
Cas started first. Cas are more likely to finish first. Simple.
Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"Between these two peices of info i feel a groundshare at j30 coming on.'"
I feel you're a wind up merchant who ought to find something better to do (cos you're no good at this).
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| Quote ="Disco"I don't think I really need to but...
When Thornes Park was still on both our stadia were progressing very roughly in parallel. When it fell through it put Wakey seriously behind the eight ball - you had to start again from scratch and Cas leapt into the lead in terms of finishing first. By your own admission you don't yet have even outline planning permission and frankly I'm dubious about both the (whole of the) funding you need plus the blind faith you seem to have in Sir Rodney's ability wave his magic wand and create you a Disneyland.
To be honest though, given that Wakey fans have consistently spent the last God knows how many years gleefully pointing out to Cas fans just how mine-strewn and protracted the planning and construction processes are, it does seem rather laughable how quickly you've forgotten your own words now.
Cas started first. Cas are more likely to finish first. Simple.
I feel you're a wind up merchant who ought to find something better to do (cos you're no good at this).
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So you have more faith in RW or if possible would you swap him for SRW?
If it were up to me i know which one i would go for,
Community stadiums are far easier to fund than private ventures, besides if your applying for funding who do you think will get looked upon in a better light? ala Sport England funding for the district going to J30.
So before this spirals into mud slinging, will you acknowledge we are on a par when we have planning permission in 7 or so weeks?
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"So you have more faith in RW or if possible would you swap him for SRW?
If it were up to me i know which one i would go for,
Community stadiums are far easier to fund than private ventures, besides if your applying for funding who do you think will get looked upon in a better light? ala Sport England funding for the district going to J30.
So before this spirals into mud slinging, will you acknowledge we are on a par when we have planning permission in 7 or so weeks?'"
What's your point? Wakey clearly aren't as progressed as Cas, they won't be until they least have outlined planning permission.
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| Quote ="Gazemous"icon_rolleyes.gif
What's your point? Wakey clearly aren't as progressed as Cas, they won't be until they least have outlined planning permission.'"
that is debatable when you consider the funding issue. And Cas still havn't released the books from last year, so tbf this isn't a point you or any of us can really debate. We (wakie) are as transparent as a puddle of mud but even old Teddy knows he has to release his books.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"that is debatable when you consider the funding issue. And Cas still havn't released the books from last year, so tbf this isn't a point you or any of us can really debate. We (wakie) are as transparent as a puddle of mud but even old Teddy knows he has to release his books.'"
WHAT funding issue? FFS you know nothing, I know nothing, let's just see how it turns out and stop trying to score cheap points for no particular reason than to brighten a very sad life.
And what are you on about about 'releasing the books'? Accounts have to be filed at companies house by a particular deadline, this deadline has only just passed for my 2007/8 accounts, so Cas can submit theirs whenever their deadline falls.
Jesus wept
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"funding issue.'"
Not anymore from what ive heard
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| Quote ="tigersteve"Not anymore from what ive heard
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Care to share what you've heard?
It's getting to the point where I'm giving up hope and I'll only start to be encouraged again when a see cement being mixed.
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| Ive just heard that funding is not a problem now, he is a good source that is very rarely wrong,
I said to him and il say on here i will not be happy until im stood in the new stadium.
I just feel it might happen now rather than it wont happen.
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| At reading the cr@p from a fellow supporter I thought I would add my two penneth to the stadia argument since it appears that there is some useful discussion.
It seems to make economic sense to share the stadium. There is no doubt about that. If the stadium could be double fronted so from one entrance would be Wakefield and would be the home stand for Wakie and the the other Castleford it would allow each club to maintain it's identity and to have separate facilities, shops and branding with the possibility of shared resources reducing operating costs (groundsmen / stewards / hot dog vendors. etc). Cas fans can approach from one way and see their stadium and Wakie fans the other and see their stadium. How often do you walk around the stadium to see the other stands?
Each separate stand could have it's own season tickets which wouldn't cause a problem on Derby day and it would get more use as a game would be there pretty much weekly. planning for overlapping fixtures would be easy with a 24hour turnaround.
Brand identity would be the key though as other shared stadia (Galpharm as an example) are often sanitised of their club identity and become a faceless feature.
You thoughts?
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| Quote ="Wadski"At reading the cr@p from a fellow supporter I thought I would add my two penneth to the stadia argument since it appears that there is some useful discussion.
It seems to make economic sense to share the stadium. There is no doubt about that. If the stadium could be double fronted so from one entrance would be Wakefield and would be the home stand for Wakie and the the other Castleford it would allow each club to maintain it's identity and to have separate facilities, shops and branding with the possibility of shared resources reducing operating costs (groundsmen / stewards / hot dog vendors. etc). Cas fans can approach from one way and see their stadium and Wakie fans the other and see their stadium. How often do you walk around the stadium to see the other stands?
Each separate stand could have it's own season tickets which wouldn't cause a problem on Derby day and it would get more use as a game would be there pretty much weekly. planning for overlapping fixtures would be easy with a 24hour turnaround.
Brand identity would be the key though as other shared stadia (Galpharm as an example) are often sanitised of their club identity and become a faceless feature.
You thoughts?'"
I think wakey should share with you
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| Quote ="Wadski"At reading the cr@p ...
You thoughts?'"
I think you, like every other non Cas or Wakey fan, has glossed over the one key issue that is preventing a groundshare - that is location.
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| I'm not to worried about us sharing, but the thing is our stadium is a good distance along so I don't see the point of scrapping it just to start again somewhere else.
Now if Wakey were willing to play at the Glasshoughton site then fine.
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| If anyone wants to back up there claim with cold hard cash i know a bookie who will take the bet, who's ground will be built and opened first Wakie or Cas.
50 squid anyone?
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"If anyone wants to back up there claim with cold hard cash i know a bookie who will take the bet, who's ground will be built and opened first Wakie or Cas.
50 squid anyone?'"
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"If anyone wants to back up there claim with cold hard cash i know a bookie who will take the bet, who's ground will be built and opened first Wakie or Cas.
50 squid anyone?'"
Just out of interest how confident were you that thornes park would be a succes before it went t!ts up?
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