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| Quote ="jools"60k isn't much for a record breaking top try scorer. I agree cas were rather tight there.'"
You realise that was signed before his record breaking season.....
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| Quote ="Lebron James"I really can't see this ending well for castleford. Sale sharks are an international brand, recognised the world over and they wouldn't want to damage that if they thought what they were doing was wrong. They would have sought the best legal advice possible so they must be pretty happy they will get off with it. You only need to check their website to see how professional they are. Compare it to castlefords which looks like the work experience lad made with Microsoft front page to see the difference between the 2 clubs. Cas just need to bite the bullet and ensure next time they unearth a gem, pay him what he asks for which by the way, wasn't unreasonable.
Regards
King James'"
Disagree
Sale Sharks sit 10th in the Aviva Premiership.
They are hardly "Manchester United" or "Wigan".
They are a decent English top flight club, not in the same caliber as Leicester or Bath .
Cas should no way "bite the bullet" or there will be an exodus from the sport.
I cannot believe that ANY RL fan could holy the view that "King James" does and you should immediately abdicate
your self titled throne ![CRAZY d040.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//d040.gif)
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| Quote ="jools"60k isn't much for a record breaking top try scorer. I agree cas were rather tight there.'"
He was also a gamble when Cas signed him and this was his first season he really looked like a record breaker (with thanks to Dorn/Gale/Webster). For all anyone knows the club might have been planning to offer him an improved contract/extension next season however when a player comes demanding more cash or they'll walk out on their contract its one way to quickly stop that from happening.
Quote ="Lebron James"You only need to check their website to see how professional they are. Compare it to castlefords which looks like the work experience lad made with Microsoft front page to see the difference between the 2 clubs.'"
![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) I know the Cas website isn't all singing all dancing however if you believe the Sharks website is professional you're clueless.
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| Solomona's contract with Tigers was £49,000 last season, rising to £60,000 this year and then £70,000 in 2018, the final year of his deal.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"They would have sought the best legal advice possible so they must be pretty happy they will get off with it.'"
Yeah - I wonder if this legal team advised Sale to to put a bid in for 200K and then, after it was turned down, put another offer in for only 50K ? Great idea.
I'll tell you what I recon. The "best legal advice possible" advised Sale Sharks that little old Cas Tigers will buckle and won't take you on in court.
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| Quote ="invmatt" I know the Cas website isn't all singing all dancing however if you believe the Sharks website is professional you're clueless.'"
I just took a look. Not particularly impressive.
This Lebron bloke is just a Rah, Rah boy trying to stir up trouble.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Sale sharks wouldn't want to damage that if they thought what they were doing was wrong.
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King James'"
No, of course not. Offering £50,000 for a "quick and quiet" deal (when they have previously offered £200,000) is exactly what a company does when they think they have done nothing wrong.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"I really can't see this ending well for castleford. Sale sharks are an international brand, recognised the world over and they wouldn't want to damage that if they thought what they were doing was wrong. They would have sought the best legal advice possible so they must be pretty happy they will get off with it. You only need to check their website to see how professional they are. Compare it to castlefords which looks like the work experience lad made with Microsoft front page to see the difference between the 2 clubs. Cas just need to bite the bullet and ensure next time they unearth a gem, pay him what he asks for which by the way, wasn't unreasonable.
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King James'"
Ah yes, money = sense. A website really sets the moral standard here, you numpty.
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| Quote ="matt_casfan"You realise that was signed before his record breaking season.....'"
Exactly. He was signed as a mediocre winger from a relegated London side on a decent wage. He then had an average/above average 2015 and then signed an extension at the end of that season. Broke a record and turns it into this. I don't care if he wants to leave the club, but he's acting like a spoilt brat.
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| I am assuming this Steve Diamond geezer is the same welshman that turned out for Wakefield Trinity back in the 80s?
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| Quote ="Lebron James"I really can't see this ending well for castleford. Sale sharks are an international brand, recognised the world over.
Regards
King James'"
Ah, poor old [i'Prince Albert'[/i !
I really pity you, only having access to the family brain cell once every leap year.
Reality check Prince Albert, Cas have the upper hand, Sale are the Wakefield, Huddersfield, Salford or Leigh of Union, Woolongong Kukubura Wombats under 13's probably have a higher [iInternational profile[/i than Sale Sharks.
Diamond's emails & other evidence has shot Sale's position into the gutter & they are screwed.
What is likely to happen now is that Sales top dog legal eagles will say "Oh, F€CK" & advise Sale to settle out of court for an undisclosed sum (most likely to be higher than their best £200k offer but lower than Cas claim of £500k, lets say a middle ground of £300k to £350k).
Furthermore, it is my opinion alone that should this go all the way & Cas lose, all SL Clubs & the RFL as Governing Body should contribute £10k each towards Castleford's legal costs *RFL £50k* should they be that high, as a show of solidarity & force from the RL community.
Best of British to you Cas.
Yours in Rugby League.
A. Regular. Bloke
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| Quote ="Miro"I am assuming this Steve Diamond geezer is the same welshman that turned out for Wakefield Trinity back in the 80s?
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No definitely not. Two different people but only one of them is a ''.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"No definitely not. Two different people but only one of them is a 'nice person'.'"
Thank goodness for that.
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| Quote ="BD"Ah yes, money = sense. A website really sets the moral standard here, you numpty.'"
This geezer is the scouse equivalent of the faux Frenchie. ![Shoot Poster a026.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a026.gif)
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| Quote ="Willzay"This geezer is the scouse equivalent of the faux Frenchie.
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Correct, a slightly better troll indeed but simply trolls for bites. Rather sad.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"
Furthermore, it is my opinion alone that should this go all the way & Cas lose, all SL Clubs & the RFL as Governing Body should contribute £10k each towards Castleford's legal costs *RFL £50k* should they be that high, as a show of solidarity & force from the RL community.
Best of British to you Cas.
Yours in Rugby League.
A. Regular. Bloke'"
Very nice touch from you sir.
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| It will be interesting to see how this pans out if it goes to Court. On the one hand, it may well be decided that an individual cannot be held to a contract if he wishes to retire (i.e. Not to be enslaved). In which case the future for RL could be bleak as this sort of thing could happen all the time. A more nuanced view might be that the two sports are similar enough to suggest retirement was a deliberate act in an endeavour to get round the constraints of a contract freely signed. I am not aware of the facts but believe the latter to be more logical based on what has been posted here. Having said that, pre-Brexit our Courts are influenced by the loonies of Europe.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"Very nice touch from you sir.'"
Whilst I like the idea of unity against the union w*****s, I do hope he's joking regarding paying Cas's legal fees.
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| Quote ="Willzay" Why? This is potentially an existential threat to pro RL in the UK.
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| I suggst we get the police to arrest everyone at the RFU on trumped up bollox and put them in the cells for a while as a show of force, isn't that how you do things...
i really hope Sale get burned and that the RFL put out a statement in the national press to say what a bunch of crunts the RFU are for okaying this.
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| Cas should hold out for more money. 4 tries in 3 games. Unheard of. Has he been picked for England yet?
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| Quote ="Sit down, Waldo"Cas should hold out for more money. 4 tries in 3 games. Unheard of. Has he been picked for England yet?'"
The Tigers only wanted 500,000 for him first of all. That price has clearly risen and we are probably talking closer to 1 million now with his try scoring feats
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"The Tigers only wanted 500,000 for him first of all. That price has clearly risen and we are probably talking closer to 1 million now with his try scoring feats'"
Haha- absolutely no way will they get away with that one! Tomkins got a fee of 700k and was "performing well" for years, not just a season or two-he will have been earning one of the highest wages in SL at the time. Sale will just point to the fact that Denny was previously playing in the lower leagues and Castleford clearly didn't rate solomona very highly as a player as he was earning just 60k rising to 70k, a much lower wage than many "top" SL players so therefore shouldnt command anything like that size of transfer fee.
They need to hit them for losses and keep the transfer fee realistic.
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| Quote ="jools"Haha- absolutely no way will they get away with that one! Tomkins got a fee of 700k and was "performing well" for years, not just a season or two-he will have been earning one of the highest wages in SL at the time. Sale will just point to the fact that Denny was previously playing in the lower leagues and Castleford clearly didn't rate solomona very highly as a player as he was earning just 60k rising to 70k, a much lower wage than many "top" SL players so therefore shouldnt command anything like that size of transfer fee.
They need to hit them for losses and keep the transfer fee realistic.'"
The difference with Tomkins and Solomona is that Solomona is already "proving" his worth to Union, whereas Tomkins was a "bigger" gamble.
On that basis, surely, his value must be increasing.
I really hope that Sale are taken to the cleaners on this one.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The difference with Tomkins and Solomona is that Solomona is already "proving" his worth to Union, whereas Tomkins was a "bigger" gamble.
On that basis, surely, his value must be increasing.
I really hope that Sale are taken to the cleaners on this one.'"
It doesn't matter what his value is now- it matters what his value was then.
Sale will argue that Cas paid him lower wages than other players and so must have valued him lower than other players and the transfer fee asked by Cas should realistically reflect that.
If Cas are paying Hardaker similar wages then they could argue that the transfer fee should be similar.
Also Cas haven't had to pay a transfer fee to Leeds as he is on loan so Sale will try to use that to argue the losses Cas claim they have as a result of having to replace Denny.
It stinks but that's how I see it going.
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