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| After 3 games in a row when decisions have gone against us, I think he's allowed a bit of a rant.
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| Terry has got every right to say what he's said. Every cas fan has been saying/thinking the same. We're just not getting the rub of the green lately and its so frustraiting! - Especially when you travel as away supporters and get forced into sub-standard viewing areas to see you team get absolutly murdered by a biased Referee. I cant fault the way the lads are playing, they've been brilliant. But they are constantly being let down by bad decisions
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| Lets hope our "luck" changes for next week
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| The responsibility for the poor standard of ref's lays squarely on numpty cummins.......
Fast tracking young ref's is the main cause of the problem..... they don't have time to develop the subtleties of the game, how experienced players can 'old man' them etc.... the system of reffing in the lower leagues, yorkshire, pennine etc is where you learn how to ref...not on a pitch surrounded by other ref's ... telling you how to do the job.
The rule that no one over 34 years old can ref conference because they cannot make it to SL level is also why we are experiencing this low standard..........many excellent ref's who have hung up their playing boots have turned away from the game because they have no where to go apart from the lower league's....... this in turn has the long term effect of having little to no competition in the higher reaches of the grading system's as we are now seeing...............
When McCallum was in charge he got a lot of things wrong but the system he had in place for progression through the grades for referee's was one of the best and it meant you progressed on your skill and ability not because you were 21 and could run 100m in under 10 sec's...
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| TBH, he never had a good game for either side. From our point of view he should have at least sin-binned your player who took Welham out with a high head shot off the ball, which was one of two that might have been seen as at least a sin-binning. He also allowed you a very generous ten (nearer 8 most of the time) which prevented us from getting any forward movement at times.
He got a few thing wrong in our favour as well, but all in all he was relatively consistant for both teams.
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| Quote ="rover49"TBH, he never had a good game for either side. From our point of view he should have at least sin-binned your player who took Welham out with a high head shot off the ball, which was one of two that might have been seen as at least a sin-binning. He also allowed you a very generous ten (nearer 8 most of the time) which prevented us from getting any forward movement at times.
He got a few thing wrong in our favour as well, but all in all he was relatively consistant for both teams.'"
Yeah because a sin binning not given evens out a biased penalty count and a penalty try and a sin binning he bottled it out on?
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| If TM got done for those comments, then the RFL is a bigger joke outfit than I thought they were already.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Yeah because a sin binning not given evens out a biased penalty count and a penalty try and a sin binning he bottled it out on?'"
It was your indiscipline that caused the penalty count, your players tried to spoil a lot without the cleverness to get away with it.
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| Cas were allowed to slow the ball down for periods of the game but then suddenly Hewer seemed to decide it was no longer allowed and pulled them up repeatedly.
Seemed to be constantly looking for a reason to give a penalty all of the time and while Cas were no angels, the amounts of penalties he gave against them was harsh.
Rovers should have put more points on the board in the first half as I thought we looked the better team - just not clinical enough. Cas came back well in the second period and the game could have gone either way but Hewers whistle prevented Cas keeping their momentum going.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"eusa_clap.gif
After seeing his team take 3 weeks of **** he should be allowed to have a little rant, and tbh he should have made more of a fuss about it.'"
I thought he had a poor game all round, obviously I look at it as a Rovers fan, but had we lost, I wouldn't have been happy either.
These officials need to be held accountable for their performances as much as the players, clubs, fans or anyone connected to the game.
Last night I saw a frustrated Shenton shouting at the touch judge, who looked about seventeen, "Are you watching the fooking game"?
When a player is that pi$$ed off, then you know something isn't right.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"I thought he had a poor game all round, obviously I look at it as a Rovers fan, but had we lost, I wouldn't have been happy either.
These officials need to be held accountable for their performances as much as the players, clubs, fans or anyone connected to the game.
Last night I saw a frustrated Shenton shouting at the touch judge, who looked about seventeen, "Are you watching the fooking game"?
When a player is that pi$$ed off, then you know something isn't right.'"
Yep, especially when it's a player like Shenton who comes across quiet as well.
Touch judges are pointless these days, all they do is signal if a conversion is over or not, and some don't even get that right, everything to do with refereeing is a joke from Cummings down, and the disciplinary committee is even worse, warning letters are the most pointless thing ever.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Yep, especially when it's a player like Shenton who comes across quiet as well.
Touch judges are pointless these days, all they do is signal if a conversion is over or not, and some don't even get that right, everything to do with refereeing is a joke from Cummings down, and the disciplinary committee is even worse, warning letters are the most pointless thing ever.'"
Got to be said, the TJ's have really taken a step back this year, they don't seem to get involved at all
They haven't done this off their own back, some instruction must have gone out from Cummings
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| He was shocking. How on earth did he fail to miss that on Dixon in mid air when sherwin put the kick to the corner. Shocking decision.
Kr were constantly offside but never got punished for it.
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| Quote ="xJAMIEx"He was shocking. How on earth did he fail to miss that on Dixon in mid air when sherwin put the kick to the corner. Shocking decision.
Kr were constantly offside but never got punished for it.'"
First point, probably right but the second? Give over.
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| Quote ="HKRSid"First point, probably right but the second? Give over.'"
Probably right? Theres no probably about it???
And as for the second I know for a fact I am right. It didnt happen all the game but towards the end when all the decisions were going your way your players were way too quick off the mark.
It got to the point were me and the cas fans around me were laughing in disbelief at some of the decisions. Never been on here to complain about a ref before but he never made it a fair game last night which was a real shame.
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| Quote ="xJAMIEx"He was shocking. How on earth did he fail to miss that on Dixon in mid air when sherwin put the kick to the corner. Shocking decision.
Kr were constantly offside but never got punished for it.'"
You were offside in nearly every play.
You didn't notice the very late, headshot on Welham which was as bad as some I have seen players walk for.
The late hit on Dobson after he had kicked on the 5th (the player had lots of room to stop).
we could go on playing tit for tat, i doubt any team is completely innocent for a full 80 mins.
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| Quote ="rover49"You were offside in nearly every play.
You didn't notice the very late, headshot on Welham which was as bad as some I have seen players walk for.
The late hit on Dobson after he had kicked on the 5th (the player had lots of room to stop).
we could go on playing tit for tat, i doubt any team is completely innocent for a full 80 mins.'"
The Dixon decision inparticular was inexcusable. Really, really surprised that some of your fans are banging on about the ref when quite clearly all the 50/50's and more went your way. I say some KR fans because I was in town after chatting to a few of your lot and they were quick to admit the home crowd were reffing the game.
I'll go back to the particular Dixon incident because at that point we were on top and there was only 4 points in it.
The decision unbelieveably goes your way, then you get a penalty and go up the other end and score which completely turns the game.
Not the first time this season we have had game changing decisions go against us.
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| Quote ="xJAMIEx"The Dixon decision inparticular was inexcusable. Really, really surprised that some of your fans are banging on about the ref when quite clearly all the 50/50's and more went your way. I say some KR fans because I was in town after chatting to a few of your lot and they were quick to admit the home crowd were reffing the game.
I'll go back to the particular Dixon incident because at that point we were on top and there was only 4 points in it.
The decision unbelieveably goes your way, then you get a penalty and go up the other end and score which completely turns the game.
Not the first time this season we have had game changing decisions go against us.'"
You keep going on about the Dixon incident, the player who decked Welham should have walked, which DEFINATELY would have changed the game.
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| Quote ="rover49"You keep going on about the Dixon incident, the player who decked Welham should have walked, which DEFINATELY would have changed the game.'"
So would the penalty try - Hull KR scored a few tackles after it.
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| Quote ="xJAMIEx"Probably right? Theres no probably about it???
And as for the second I know for a fact I am right. It didnt happen all the game but towards the end when all the decisions were going your way your players were way too quick off the mark.
It got to the point were me and the cas fans around me were laughing in disbelief at some of the decisions. Never been on here to complain about a ref before but he never made it a fair game last night which was a real shame.'"
Exactly. The game was over by that time (if it happened) and there was no consequence from it. Btw, you did very well to spot all the offsides from behind the posts. Did you have panoramic binoculars?
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| These arguments are pointless, both sets of fans are going to believe that decisions by ref wrongly went against them.
It just sounds in this case as if we had a few major decisions go against us.
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| Quote ="therobins"Exactly. The game was over by that time (if it happened) and there was no consequence from it. Btw, you did very well to spot all the offsides from behind the posts. Did you have panoramic binoculars?
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Me and everyone around me noticed you players making no effort to get onside about 20 mins from the end so if the game was over by then you should have said then I would have gone on my way.
Just ask yourself where we were camped with and without the ball while this was going on. IIRC then I'd say quite near our own try line so rather than trying to be the funny zany poster why don't you think about it.
Quote ="Bearded"These arguments are pointless, both sets of fans are going to believe that decisions by ref wrongly went against them.
It just sounds in this case as if we had a few major decisions go against us.'"
I just can't understand what game they were watching because the cas fans were going crazy were I was sat.
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| Quote ="rover49"You keep going on about the Dixon incident, the player who decked Welham should have walked, which DEFINATELY would have changed the game.'"
Welham slipped / ducked in to the tackle. A penalty - no more.
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| Quote ="Nev0807"Welham slipped / ducked in to the tackle. A penalty - no more.'"
Yeah ok then
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