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| If the lad is unhappy I've no problem with him asking for a transfer...it's how he reacts to being told he can't have one that matters and we probably wont really find that out until he starts playing again. I remember John Joyner playing some stinkers while he angled for a move but Cas refused to sell and he went on to become the model (one)clubman.
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| Clarke is nowhere near Shenton's proven position at the time he went - Clarke has huge potential, but a lot of players do.
I actually think he has shown some naivety because getting fit and continuing the blaze the trail he did through to Easter next season would have seen his value catapulted beyond the terms talked of now, he has gone off greedy (or his agent) and if his current deal is woefully under-value, then his advisers need to take that responsibility becuase the ink is barely dry on that deal.
Poor decision making on a few parties - but on this occasion not the club; what else can they do but commit players to longer term deals, balance allowing some players to go like Arundel, in return for protecting the contracts of the like of Clarke, Milner, Chase and facilitating the signings of Shenton.
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| If I am being honest, Milner should be your starting Hooker. Clark imo is a bench hooekr to come on and rip teams up. But Milner will take you forward. Clark would be a loss but if he doesn't want to be there then Cas need to blood a new hooker to back Milner up.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"If I am being honest, Milner should be your starting Hooker. Clark imo is a bench hooekr to come on and rip teams up. But Milner will take you forward. Clark would be a loss but if he doesn't want to be there then Cas need to blood a new hooker to back Milner up.'"
We do. We have an abundance of young hookers coming through. Next one in line, and tipped for a big future too, is Casey Canterbury.
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| I've not read through all the posts so this may have already been said? But:
Well done to Cas and the board for turning down this transfer request, it's about time that clubs stood up to the players agents and said NO otherwise contracts are rapidly going to become worthless. Even if it was my club who had wanted to approach him it's great for the game they were turned down. Again a big WELL DONE!!
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| What surprises me about the Clark transfer situation , is that he signed a 4 year deal only at the end of last season, if he wanted to get away surely he shouldnt have signed a deal with Cas. I think there is more to meet the eye that what he states as his reasons. they were valid last year weren't they. I think certain personnel at Cas could have a bearing on this one. Like they have with a lot of players.
We never heard any nonsense about the whole team disliking the gentlemanly terry matterson, who IMO was a true gent and very professional and is sadly missed.
I am afraid the appointment of Millward has been a disaster.
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| Matterson might have been a gentleman but he was a pushover...how many times did people see the Cas players in xscape getting ed on a friday night or before or two days before a match. Millward - who is an idiot at times (Mathers debacle) takes a more proffesional outlook by putting a 72=hour curfew on drinking before a game...the players obviously don't want it and we have a revolt on our hands simple.
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| why does it say vexed...I wrote =#FF0000******..mind you thats probably why
=#FF0000Please don't write swear words on posts even if you have replaced a letter with an asterix. Everybody knows what you mean. Thanks, BostonSpaTiger.
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"What surprises me about the Clark transfer situation , is that he signed a 4 year deal only at the end of last season, if he wanted to get away surely he shouldnt have signed a deal with Cas.'"
TBH, the way I see contracts really is a 'win win' situation for the player. The club themselves use it as a marketing tool to say Player A has pledged their future to the club etc etc. But in reality it offers the player security of his playing conditions and pay, but for the club it would do little more that add some security of being paid out if another club wanted to buy a player whilst still under an active contract.
So in terms of why would Clark sign a long contract and then request a transfer so early into the contract??...Well why not? The player has nothing to lose, and potentially many things to gain! Forget about the loyalty side of things, sadly loyalty barely exists in today's game at any level.
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| Quote ="castigersdave"Matterson might have been a gentleman but he was a pushover...how many times did people see the Cas players in xscape getting vexed on a friday night or before or two days before a match'"
And we have exactly that now, a worse defence, a worse attack and players wanting out. Bring back Box all is forgiven.
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| Every club has players who go out drinking. In castlefords case because they go to the Xscape they are more visible (fools ) if they went drinking in a pub in Ledston only a dozen people would know.
I wouldn't call Millward professional with the way he has behaved at other clubs.
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| Quote ="castigersdave"Matterson might have been a gentleman but he was a pushover...how many times did people see the Cas players in xscape getting vexed on a friday night or before or two days before a match. Millward - who is an idiot at times (Mathers debacle) takes a more proffesional outlook by putting a 72=hour curfew on drinking before a game...the players obviously don't want it and we have a revolt on our hands simple.'"
what were you saying about controlling the players drinking on a friday night. Told you all clubs are the same.
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| You also told everyon NM wouldn't get passed as I re
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| You have passed the first planning stage. There is a lot of water to go under bridge before any ground will be built on there. Dont get excited like the castleford fans did when they put two diggers on the land behind escape. There will be a lot happening over the next 6 months in Super league. Bradford Bulls is the tip of a very large iceberg,
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"if they went drinking in a pub in Ledston only a dozen people would know.'"
Who would then Tweet, Facebook and text what they'd seen, and it would be common knowledge in RL circles within hours, closely followed by an 'exclusive' scoop from Dave 'Nosey' Parker.
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"You have passed the first planning stage. There is a lot of water to go under bridge before any ground will be built on there. Dont get excited like the castleford fans did when they put two diggers (now rusty) on the land behind escape. There will be a lot happening over the next 6 months in Super league. Bradford Bulls is the tip of a very large iceberg,'"
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"You have passed the first planning stage. There is a lot of water to go under bridge before any ground will be built on there. Dont get excited like the castleford fans did when they put two diggers on the land behind escape. There will be a lot happening over the next 6 months in Super league. Bradford Bulls is the tip of a very large iceberg,'"
Change of tack there scabby, from it will never happen to it might not.
Face facts you are clueless, certainly to make such a boast, and don't forget my pint!!!!!!!!
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| Sounds like he heard big clubs were in for him and wanted to jump ship at the earliest opportunity.
Well Clarky, the grass isn't always greener. Go ask Messrs Shenton and Orr. All the support Cas and Cas fans have given him to get him where he has, pushing for him to be in the first team. Lost respect for him in some senses.
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| doesnt sound like he's regretted handing the transfer request in then,time to grow up lad and have a bit of respect for the club
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| Lost all respect myself and I don't think he will be getting his usual reception from the CT faithful when he makes his return to 1st team action. Time to cash-in like Chase maybe ?
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Lost all respect myself and I don't think he will be getting his usual reception from the CT faithful when he makes his return to 1st team action. Time to cash-in like Chase maybe ?'"
An astonishing talent and I really hope his opinion changes.
I have no problem with him having such ideas but, especially as a young local lad, I think he's been very unwise expressing them publicly.
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| Sounds like somebody tapped him up. RFL should do something.
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| Interesting, there is a large element now of everyone can only say what they are supposed to say - the genie is out of the bottle, so it is highly unlikely to go back in of its own accord - Work for Basil to do to court him into the vision for 2013 now.
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