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| Quote ="JINJER"Cancelling live contracts is completely different to releasing under performing players as you well know
Sky sports have made plenty of mentions regarding your financial problems, you've only to read the Nutjobs forum to feel the paranoia!
As for FM, we've already let him go out on loan to Fev so I'm pretty sure RA wasn't that bothered to lose him.'"
Please give over clutching at straws, if any player is upto the grade what sense does it make terminating contracts. Plenty of speculation from people who don't know our finances but nothing concrete where our chairman has to come out and admit the club has more CCJs than HMV.. However if you can produce a link feel free....
The fact you offered Mariano a contract suggests your coach didn't want to lose him tbh
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| Quote ="Willzay"Lets see - James Elston has said it and Richard Agar has said it as well.'"
Sounds like me when I don't win the lotto on a Saturday night..... I didn't want to win.... Honest.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Possibly be why terminate? Why not just let the contracts run their time?'"
Because the extend beyond this season?
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| Quote ="JINJER"Possibly be why terminate? Why not just let the contracts run their time?'"
Because the extend beyond this season?
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| No it doesn't, it means he doesn't value him as high as your club do!
So your in favour of terminating working contracts? Glad you don't employ me!
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| Speaking of rumours. Perhaps Jinjer, ElRey,Vasty etc may care to go back to their own forum and let the Wakey masses know of the rumour that when AG was saying they were over their CCJ's he did not say they had another one awarded against them only the day before!
Except it is not a rumour, it's a fact!
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| Quote ="JINJER"No it doesn't, it means he doesn't value him as high as your club do!
So your in favour of terminating working contracts? Glad you don't employ me!'"
Why go through the time and effort of making a contract offer then if Agar just isn't bothered ???
Sport is a different kettle of fish, clubs and players show no loyalty. we see it time and time again....Eg player A makes it big and slaps a transfer request in from the club that gave him his chance for a couple of grand more and better chance at silverware.... On the flip side player A might be rubbish so club A pays up his contract and gets rid...... That's sport in this day and age.
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| Quote ="bigalf"Speaking of rumours. Perhaps Jinjer, ElRey,Vasty etc may care to go back to their own forum and let the Wakey masses know of the rumour that when AG was saying they were over their CCJ's he did not say they had another one awarded against them only the day before!
Except it is not a rumour, it's a fact!'"
I don't need to tell them, they will all know because they follow the nutjob forum and its ringleader
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| Quote ="El Rey"I don't need to tell them, they will all know because they follow the nutjob forum and its ringleader
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Only a few obbsesive ones!
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| Quote ="bigalf"Only a few obbsesive ones!'"
No there loads of obbsesive ones on that forum, its full of them
Hurry back they'll miss their leader.
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| Quote ="El Rey"No there loads of obbsesive ones on that forum, its full of them
Hurry back they'll miss their leader.
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I'm honoured!
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| Quote ="bigalf"I'm honoured!'"
You should be its a great honour leading the likes of tigerwood posse and vinniedog, you must be so proud
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| Quote ="El Rey"You should be its a great honour leading the likes of tigerwood posse and vinniedog, you must be so proud
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I always have been all inclusive.
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| Saw 5 pages and was hoping to see a couple of new names....
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| Saw 5 pages and was hoping to see a couple of new names....
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| Another point to note regarding Mariano - Wakey wanted CT to take him now to help their wage bill and Cas said they didn't want to do that. Next season will be fine.
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| if Cas offered him more than wakey (IF!) then it may be due to the fact that they didn't have much more to spend. You guys have already signed a couple for next year, maybe they were taking up the money available?
If he was on 40k, wakey may have said "we cannot afford to increase your wage due to the funds being made available elsewhere" .....cas said "ok we will offer you 45k"
it doesn't seem like wakey "weren't bothered" about keeping him, if they were negotiating a contract - clubs just don't renew them if they aren't bothered.
Cash strapped or not, if you aren't bothered about keeping a player, why negotiate to keep paying his wages?
..........Not that any of that really matters anyway
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Another point to note regarding Mariano - Wakey wanted CT to take him now to help their wage bill and Cas said they didn't want to do that. Next season will be fine.'"
If thats true then its fair enough.
He did go out to Fev on loan with Fev picking up the wages, part or whole i don't know.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"We have a winding up order ??? Or more CCJs than competition points ???? Link please ???'"
When did Mariano not get his paid wages due from Wakefield? Link please???
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"So there are no links to our 'financial problems' but yours are public knowledge ??? Bit funny that if we are both 'in the same boat'
Glass houses ??? We have never been in admin or spent what we can't afford at the expense of the club where as Wakefield have done and look like doing it again. tbh I feel this is down to a culture at Wakefield of 'let's finish above Cas at any expense' that's hurting your club.'"
Didn't your then CEO Steve Ferres publicly claim the the club was in a precarious position before launching its member ship. Your money problems are well documented from that meeting.
Yes we went in admin, so have Bradford and London in recent years whats your point? we were punished accordingly (although circumstances worked favorably in the end) [size=150We are at present a loss making club and so is the majority of SL including Cas Tigers.[/size By going on what the respective clubs big wigs say, Wakefield have a lower playing buget than Cas. I'll bet we consistently have spent less than Cas on our wages over the last few years although I suspect the difference is small. We were never busting the bank to win Challenge Cups and SL titles like Bradford. We always spent enough to survive and Ted was underwriting the losses until he went bust and took some his share back out of the club at the worst possible time. I think your a bit short sighted in your view of us a club to suggest we have a "lets finish above Cas at any expense" mentality.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Another point to note regarding Mariano - Wakey wanted CT to take him now to help their wage bill and Cas said they didn't want to do that. Next season will be fine.'"
Why would we want to go now when we was fighting to get him back from Fev. What proof do we have of this or is it just more rumors?
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| Quote ="deeHell"When did Mariano not get his paid wages due from Wakefield? Link please???'"
As soon as you put the link up to where I said he hadn't got wages due from Wakefield in the past.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"if Cas offered him more than wakey (IF!) then it may be due to the fact that they didn't have much more to spend. You guys have already signed a couple for next year, maybe they were taking up the money available?
If he was on 40k, wakey may have said "we cannot afford to increase your wage due to the funds being made available elsewhere" .....cas said "ok we will offer you 45k"
it doesn't seem like wakey "weren't bothered" about keeping him, if they were negotiating a contract - clubs just don't renew them if they aren't bothered.
Cash strapped or not, if you aren't bothered about keeping a player, why negotiate to keep paying his wages?
..........Not that any of that really matters anyway'"
Or more likely was put his value at 40k and not a penny more considering he would more than likely been a back up player.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"As soon as you put the link up to where I said he hadn't got wages due from Wakefield in the past.
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Weres the straw clutching? You've made a statement that Frankie Mariano didn't get paid his due wages from us. I don't believe that, in our recent documented troubles I know that all players have been paid. So were has this information come from?
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| Quote ="deeHell"Weres the straw clutching? You've made a statement that Frankie Mariano didn't get paid his due wages from us. I don't believe that, in our recent documented troubles I know that all players have been paid. So were has this information come from?'"
Read over, I suggested next year he may not due to your financial situation. And let's be honest you have form in that regard as a club don't you.
My fault really I assumed you had read and understood the thread before contributing. Sorry
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