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| I say we take over this forum and balls to there Cas war mongerers,
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| Thought I'd stroll over and see what Tigerade was getting all semi-hard about this time. I must say, he doesn't disappoint. There's one thing highlighting something you may not agree with in a well thought out and thought provoking manner. Then there is the strangely obsessive barrage of diarrhea that erupts from the keyboard fumblings of Tigerade when he's not shouting at the damp-ridden walls in Rugby League over-excitement.
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| Quote ="deeHell"You have some ridiculously high opinions of some of your players. Daz Clarke has not shown enough quality to say he would unseat any NRL hooker.
That made me laugh , it shows you knowledge of the game and its players,, the poachers at warrington , Hull , Leeds and the rest have it wrong and some wakefield kid knows better.
You couldnt make this up
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| wghilst you may have big plans, on the field against warrington you were a joke. You can;t hide behind promises, fairy tales and butterflies on that. Your attendance records are terrible.
Until he delivers any of these things, my initial point stands... I wish he'd get on with whatever he wants to do, rather than constantly telling us what he is GOING to do.
The incident with Ben Westwood last weekend was laughable "I will deal with my fans if they have lied to me" ....what?
Sadly most of the news that is circulating of late is ignorant drivel by this one guy that still knows nothing about the history of our sport.
If you want to be loved up thats fine - I can understand, especially after the situation you were in... As a rugby league fan its a disgrace that he belittles the sport so much with his own "libelous" comments - declaring that teams spend over the salary cap with noevidence to back it up.
I hope it works out for you, even if you want to act like plebs to us small clubs now you're a "massive force with infinite power" or whatever you said.
I will agree with every word he says when he delivers his promises.
The fan base is abysmal, the team is even worse.
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| Im 50/50 on Koolca$h. Yes which fan wouldn't want somebody like him ploughing his wealth into their club,and its great that he is investing in our sport.
But some of his statements are a bit over the top and i worry (for Salfords sake) that he will bring the wrong type of players (and their agents) to his club. He has to get a balance of getting players in (who lets be honest there for the high pay cheques) and young hungry locally produced players.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"wghilst you may have big plans, on the field against warrington you were a joke. You can;t hide behind promises, fairy tales and butterflies on that. Your attendance records are terrible.
Until he delivers any of these things, my initial point stands... I wish he'd get on with whatever he wants to do, rather than constantly telling us what he is GOING to do.
The incident with Ben Westwood last weekend was laughable "I will deal with my fans if they have lied to me" ....what?
Sadly most of the news that is circulating of late is ignorant drivel by this one guy that still knows nothing about the history of our sport.
If you want to be loved up thats fine - I can understand, especially after the situation you were in... As a rugby league fan its a disgrace that he belittles the sport so much with his own "libelous" comments - declaring that teams spend over the salary cap with noevidence to back it up.
I hope it works out for you, even if you want to act like plebs to us small clubs now you're a "massive force with infinite power" or whatever you said.
I will agree with every word he says when he delivers his promises.
The fan base is abysmal, the team is even worse.'"
...And Breathe.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"what makes me feel insecure is the fact that you get the impression that he can say/do what he want. I feel extremely worried that the RFL won't act.
Saying that "a lot of teams spend over the cap, I will do the same" is slanderous of the RFL and it's policies, yet nothing was said. He publically brought the game into disrepute making those comments.
My point with him "getting rid but not sacking" his chief exec, is that he brought him in his self when he took over - he's lasted about three months.
Surely you'd be wondering what the hell is going on.
My worry as a Salford fan would be that he's using their beloved club as a plaything, and as soon as he gets bored (as he has done with his CEX) he will drop them in a worse state than they were 6 months ago'"
Without going through all of your posts I will refer to this one and I will ignore the 'libellous post' from the Cas fan who suggests Salford have 'tapped up' a current player at Bradford.
Firstly I will ask why you suggest he has brought the game into disrepute ? Also,why have you not started a thread about Tony Smith who stated Salford should have been docked 2 points for the 14 players;after a decision was reached by the RFL;The decision to go to the clubs for their views on restructuring and now on the 'attitude' of an international player at another club ?
The CEO who is leaving the club was recommended to him,and he is now able to bring in someone of his own choice with a far larger remit.
Did any Salford follower offer an opinion when Ferres left ? was replaced by GILL ?
There are no complaints by Salford fans so why should you be worried on their behalf ?
If it is because of the rumour that the club have an interest in Chase can I expect a thread condemning the St George Illawara club ?
As I am just a supporter of the game who pays my money and takes my chance,I do not know who was at fault for the 14 or what procedures and processes are in place to prevent a repetition.
If it makes you feel any better I don't think it possible to leave the club in a worse state than it was 6 months ago.
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| Quote ="Red-Devils-PAW"Without going through all of your posts I will refer to this one and I will ignore the 'libellous post' from the Cas fan who suggests Salford have 'tapped up' a current player at Bradford.
Firstly I will ask why you suggest he has brought the game into disrepute ? Also,why have you not started a thread about Tony Smith who stated Salford should have been docked 2 points for the 14 players;after a decision was reached by the RFL;The decision to go to the clubs for their views on restructuring and now on the 'attitude' of an international player at another club ?
The CEO who is leaving the club was recommended to him,and he is now able to bring in someone of his own choice with a far larger remit.
Did any Salford follower offer an opinion when Ferres left ? was replaced by GILL ?
There are no complaints by Salford fans so why should you be worried on their behalf ?
If it is because of the rumour that the club have an interest in Chase can I expect a thread condemning the St George Illawara club ?
As I am just a supporter of the game who pays my money and takes my chance,I do not know who was at fault for the 14 or what procedures and processes are in place to prevent a repetition.
If it makes you feel any better I don't think it possible to leave the club in a worse state than it was 6 months ago.'"
Careful now, that was reasonable and non-sensational.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Tigerade needs to be careful with his libellous comments, otherwise he could be next on the Dr's hit list.
"We're Salford rugby, we'll do what we want..."'"
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I'm really scared. Shaking even.
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JGR's post was what we call 'Tongue-in-cheek'. You might want to brush-up on meanings within structured sentences. Only trying to help, after all, I think you're doing very well.
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| Are you a teacher ?
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Quote ="biggunbrad"That made me laugh , it shows you knowledge of the game and its players,, the poachers at warrington , Hull , Leeds and the rest have it wrong and some wakefield kid knows better.
You couldnt make this up'"
Since when have the above been NRL clubs?
Having said that, I must oppologise as i didn't realise Clark had utility value with his ability to switch between wing and full back, that will no doubt raise his value
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... ngton.html
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You couldnt make this up'"
Since when have the above been NRL clubs?
Having said that, I must oppologise as i didn't realise Clark had utility value with his ability to switch between wing and full back, that will no doubt raise his value
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... ngton.html
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Are you a teacher ?'"
No.
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| Thank you DeeHell , you have just confirmed your knowledge of the game , you sun reader you . Back to the dark side you go .
Sun reader pmsl
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| It must be right if its in The Sun because Dave "Nosey" Parker writes for them.
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| Let's get one thing straight: without Dr Koukash coming in at the 11th hour, Super League would be a team short right now. We were dead. Buried. Kaput. Finito.
Surely it's not too much of a stretch of logic to therefore appreciate that we few fans think he's, you know, a pretty decent bloke. Arranging to clear the debt and take on a loss producing rugby league club when you've seen a handful of games in your life suggests to us that he's got a few quid. He's brought in half a dozen new players and a former Great Britain coach. That's probably cost him a few more.
Some fans may be getting a bit carried away thinking we will be top of the ladder in a couple of seasons - the Dr naively stated next year! All wrong. But now we've got a bright future. One a lot brighter than 5 months ago. We may never win a Grand Final. But this bloke's giving us a chance. So I reckon he's, you know, a pretty decent bloke.
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| Quote ="biggunbrad"Thank you DeeHell , you have just confirmed your knowledge of the game , you sun reader you . Back to the dark side you go .
Sun reader pmsl'"
wooooshhhh
If you had read the link you would of understood the joke
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| Poor attempt dee hell, as for the joke, I am replying to the joke right now. Toddle off loser
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| Quote ="biggunbrad"Poor attempt dee hell, as for the joke, I am replying to the joke right now. Toddle off loser'"
Do you actually have any opinions of substance or are you on here to promote your Daryl Clark fan club?
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| Dee - With regards to the high opinion I have of Daz Clark - check the Rhinos page out from the thread from Friday night game, it seems they share that high opinion of him too. I never stated he was certain NRL bound, just that in my opinion he is good enough & I also believe he's good enough to join 2 of the best sides in the league in Wire & Leeds.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Do you actually have any opinions of substance or are you on here to promote your Daryl Clark fan club?'"
So if someone thinks you are talking e, they have no substance , Big Dave have a word with yourself, you are trolling at your cleaner neighbours and expect it all to be rosy.
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| Quote ="Derek Smalls"Let's get one thing straight: without Dr Koukash coming in at the 11th hour, Super League would be a team short right now. We were dead. Buried. Kaput. Finito.
Surely it's not too much of a stretch of logic to therefore appreciate that we few fans think he's, you know, a pretty decent bloke. Arranging to clear the debt and take on a loss producing rugby league club when you've seen a handful of games in your life suggests to us that he's got a few quid. He's brought in half a dozen new players and a former Great Britain coach. That's probably cost him a few more.
Some fans may be getting a bit carried away thinking we will be top of the ladder in a couple of seasons - the Dr naively stated next year! All wrong. But now we've got a bright future. One a lot brighter than 5 months ago. We may never win a Grand Final. But this bloke's giving us a chance. So I reckon he's, you know, a pretty decent bloke.'"
I can't argue with the fact that he ahs turned Salford's fortunes right on their head. My issue isn't with that.
My point is (as I have satted several times on this thread but people are lashing out in defence) that he has a monopoly over your club. This is fine at the moment, but he has got bored with one CEX withing THREE MONTHS. To me that is worrying, you don't want the club to be a merrygoround of players and coaches. It didn't work for Leeds in the 1980's and it cant work for anyone else.
To make statements as you say, like "we will win the league next year" shows naivety to an outrageous extent.
And yes, I stand by my comment, saying "clubs spend over the salary cap so I will do the same" IS bringing the game into disrepute. It libellously suggests clubs are breaking the rules, when I imagine he has no real evidence for this.
I also believe that the Ben Westwood incident was pathetic. Launching his own inquiry??? the video shows Ben doing nothing of what was suggested.
In closing, if I were a Salford fan, I'd want him to talk less and act more. The more he opens his mouth the more skeptical I become of the bloke. You guys have a LOT of work to be done in order to be a big club.
All the best
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| Salford fans are hoping the club is made more stable AND competitive. We don't want a cycle of boom and bust - but as has been pointed out several times, at the start of the year we were simply bust!
The Westwood incident was regrettable, and Dr Koukash has had his apology accepted by the player, so we move on.
I agree that personally I would like to maybe hear a little less, but that's the way our new owner operates so as he's paying his money, he can conduct himself (within certain parameters) how he chooses. He is acting plenty enough for me so far, and if he walked today he has given us half a season more than we were expecting. There is plenty of work to be done, any right minded person can see that. What is simply baffling is the animosity coming from certain corners to our small club trying to improve itself and become a bigger one...
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| I think the animosity is derived through the statement he made about been prepared to cheat the cap. The timing of this statement was also questionable particularly when he just had for fork out the 10 grand fine for fielding the extra player.
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| ^this
I have no issue with Salford receiving major investment from anybody - in fact I think it's bloody brilliant that a club in our game can be attractive even in such a horrendous state as it was.
My opening post of this raised my point which I have not wavered from - it would worry me if he had selected a CEX and then dumped them after three months.
The obvious concern is that I hope it's not a sign of things to come, and personnel will be constantly reshuffled simply because he has the power over the club to do that.
Though admittedly my choice of title was the thread was distasteful.
I wouoldn't want to see any super league club used as a "plaything" for a man with too much money and not enough respect for a game I love and he knows very little about.
The comments about the salary cap highlighted this disrespect - to walk into a sport and make claims that clubs are cheating, without evidence to back it up, is just not on.
Again I re-iterate, I'd like him to speak less and act more. He doesn't need to make statements about clubs, or Ben Westwood, or that Salford will win the league in 2014...
There's no need to make himself unpopular like that
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