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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"The ACCUSATION will be put in the match report, pending an investigation. There's as many people on here saying that he was just given the verbals as there are saying he was "assaulted"....Innocent until proven guilty matey, unless you have proof that is??'"
you mean like Owen handing the missile to a steward and pointing out the exact person who threw it?
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| Were they arrested and detained then for this assault? Seen as you saw it all
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| Quote ="Gronk!"you mean like Owen handing the missile to a steward and pointing out the exact person who threw it?
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I watched Owen approach the steward at half time, he didn't physically hand anything to him he just went over to him to complain. I then watched the steward and a colleague approach the end of the ground were the Hull fans where stood. He was right in front of us and only had his radio in his hand nothing else.
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| You're wasting your time Smiggs, he was assaulted, Gronk said so!!
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| I was stood next to the incident and would class myself as a relatively unbiased individual! The incident occurred when a middle aged coward from Hull threw his pint at a teenage Cas fan next to the railings. Owen became aware of this and was in my opinion sticking up for the lad. The plastic holder did end up on the pitch and unfortunately as soon as the the stewards arrived the coward had done one. For what it's worth I and several other Hull fans apologised to the Cas teenage who was totally blameless.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Well Owen handed something to a steward and pointed out exactly the person who threw it at him.'" No he didn't .the ref walk over to him .It was beer that was thrown
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| Quote ="cyprusairliebird"I was stood next to the incident and would class myself as a relatively unbiased individual! The incident occurred when a middle aged coward from Hull threw his pint at a teenage Cas fan next to the railings. Owen became aware of this and was in my opinion sticking up for the lad. The plastic holder did end up on the pitch and unfortunately as soon as the the stewards arrived the coward had done one. For what it's worth I and several other Hull fans apologised to the Cas teenage who was totally blameless.'"
Would you be able to identify the culprit if you saw him again?
Don't need idiots like this giving us all a bad name. 5000+ well behaved FC fans there and he spoils it for us.
The stewards did pass us in the second half clearly looking for someone so i think they have a good idea of what the culprit looks like.
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| Quote ="castigersdave"They are a disgrace, throwing beer on Richard Owen, if I was Owen I'd have jumped into the stands, the RFL of course won't punish Hull FC as its only Cas or Wakey that would ever get punished, oh and I bet Andy Wilson won't say anything either. Biased pr*cks'"
So one person allegedly throws beer,and we are ALL a disgrace?,interesting.
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| While we are on the subject and this is by way of a warning.
I was in the Princess st stand 40m line nearest the scoreboard and there usually a few Cas supporters mixed in and its all ok. Today we had an "older gentleman" who was a danger to himself by constant stream of abuse to the FC fans around him. He was not really watching the game that much and missed things as he was far too interested in winding everyone around him up. No thankfully the fans where very good and did not react much, but I can see instances where this nasty little man could cause chaos. He was very rude to a mother and children and she told him to go away and I think by half time he needed a new set of victims. I talked to a couple of Cas lads stood near us and they told me he was always in there and always winding fans up.
He needs your help, because this guy is going to get with a few people who do not suffer fools gladly if you get my drift.
It did not spoil mine or anyone elses day at Cas, its always a good run out and I always enjoy the friendly banter, beer and atmosphere.
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| Quote ="Ian P"While we are on the subject and this is by way of a warning.
I was in the Princess st stand 40m line nearest the scoreboard and there usually a few Cas supporters mixed in and its all ok. Today we had an "older gentleman" who was a danger to himself by constant stream of abuse to the FC fans around him. He was not really watching the game that much and missed things as he was far too interested in winding everyone around him up. No thankfully the fans where very good and did not react much, but I can see instances where this nasty little man could cause chaos. He was very rude to a mother and children and she told him to go away and I think by half time he needed a new set of victims. I talked to a couple of Cas lads stood near us and they told me he was always in there and always winding fans up.
He needs your help, because this guy is going to get with a few people who do not suffer fools gladly if you get my drift.
It did not spoil mine or anyone elses day at Cas, its always a good run out and I always enjoy the friendly banter, beer and atmosphere.'"
Don`t mention beer.
Although I do agree about the normaly friendly banter and atmosphere.
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| Quote ="davey37"
Don't need idiots like this giving us all a bad name. 5000+ well behaved FC fans there and he spoils it for us.
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Poor show from Cas if they can only muster 4,000 home fans on a lovely sunny afternoon.
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| If something has been thrown at players from the crowd then that is totally unacceptable and the guilty person(s) should be punished for it.
However, it is not right that you decide to label an entire club's supporters over an incident that hasn't yet proven to have happened. Every club has a few idiots in its fans - because there are idiots in every town and city - and so you can't take the moral high ground on this, especially after some of your own fan-base received bans and your club a fine due to their actions a few seasons ago.
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| Quote ="cyprusairliebird"I was stood next to the incident and would class myself as a relatively unbiased individual! The incident occurred when a middle aged coward from Hull threw his pint at a teenage Cas fan next to the railings. Owen became aware of this and was in my opinion sticking up for the lad. The plastic holder did end up on the pitch and unfortunately as soon as the the stewards arrived the coward had done one. For what it's worth I and several other Hull fans apologised to the Cas teenage who was totally blameless.'"
Thanks for the details. I was in the away end behind the sticks with the Hull fans but didn't quite make out what had happened from where I was. I did later hear something along those lines, so reading your description of events, I'm sure that is actually what happened.
I don't see why many Hull fans are being so defensive. Real RL fans of every team know what's what in our game and of course it isn't everyone who causes trouble just a mindless few and I'd say all teams have a few planks. Most of the time us Cas fans are a bit touchy with these incidents because we feel hard done by as we were recently fined a couple of times yet have clearly witnessed or been part of similar events that have gone unpunished.
I won't get involved in the bitchfest but just hope anyone who saw anything can report it to the club to help rid the game of our sports mindless few.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Poor show from Cas if they can only muster 4,000 home fans on a lovely sunny afternoon.'"
Don't worry, they're getting like KR fans making up crowd numbers.
Earlier in the thread it was 3000 now it's over 5....
Cas haven't had an attendance under 8k yet so it's safe to say there was at least 6.5k Cas fans.
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| was stood ryt there sum fc fan threw his beer and owen started offering him out half of the fans didnt see it thats y we were giving owen stick but to be fair owen should be alot more mature then that and rise above it instead he reacted like a 4 year old and spat his dummy out offering the fan out. his head totally went he could of coursed alot of trouble
and on the attendance we easily outnumbered your fans today you need to admit that atleast
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| Its funny how people see what they want to see. Beer wasn't thrown and nothing was handed to the steward. If something was thrown it must have been something small because I didnt see anything, besides Owen pointed out someone and the chief steward came to have a word and went. If something was thrown and they knew who it was they would have been ejected. Owen simply lost his temper and made himself look a cock in the process.
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| just back from town (Hull) had a drink and watched the beer on a Hull fans phone. He told me most was thrown over other Hull fans but a lighter was handed to the officials which hit Owen he says. He recorded the beer to hand into the club, lets hope a ban follows. 220 on our buses coming on Friday followed by at least another 2000+, love Cas ground cannot wait. Rovers by 30 points !
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| Quote ="lewis.acton"was stood ryt there sum fc fan threw his beer and owen started offering him out half of the fans didnt see it thats y we were giving owen stick but to be fair owen should be alot more mature then that and rise above it instead he reacted like a 4 year old and spat his dummy out offering the fan out. his head totally went he could of coursed alot of trouble
and on the attendance we easily outnumbered your fans today you need to admit that atleast'"
Cas have sold 4000 STs and then there's easily a number of fans that don't buy STs.
You didn't fill all of the Railway End and there was at least 400 of about 1500 of them Cas fans. You filled about half the Princess St, which holds 4k, so I'd say 3500-4000 Hull fans.
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| Quote ="cyprusairliebird"I was stood next to the incident and would class myself as a relatively unbiased individual! The incident occurred when a middle aged coward from Hull threw his pint at a teenage Cas fan next to the railings. Owen became aware of this and was in my opinion sticking up for the lad. The plastic holder did end up on the pitch and unfortunately as soon as the the stewards arrived the coward had done one. For what it's worth I and several other Hull fans apologised to the Cas teenage who was totally blameless.'"
I saw the pint go over the Cas fan but there seemed to be a minute or so between that and Owen getting involved so I didnt think they were related, however what you say may well be right. Either way it was a very unprofessional response, Orr had to drag him away.
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| Cas fans can't really take the moral high ground. I've just read the programme notes from today about the obscene chanting.
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| Quote ="Fully"Cas have sold 4000 STs and then there's easily a number of fans that don't buy STs.
You didn't fill all of the Railway End and there was at least 400 of about 1500 of them Cas fans. You filled about half the Princess St, which holds 4k, so I'd say 3500-4000 Hull fans.'"
However many Hull fans were there today, I wish the KC received that many away fans on a regular basis!
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Don't worry, they're getting like KR fans making up crowd numbers.
Earlier in the thread it was 3000 now it's over 5....
Cas haven't had an attendance under 8k yet so it's safe to say there was at least 6.5k Cas fans.'"
You've played 4 teams with big followings, with Rovers and Saints to come next. We'll see how big your home support is when Widnes come to town in Round 13.
Are you going to stop throwing out comments about Richard Owen's "assault" now, seeing as you didn't see it and have no idea? An accusation has been reported. Nothing has been proven, and by the sounds of it nothing actually happened to Richard Owen himself. He can't just go around offering everyone out. He's supposed to be a professional.
Was the man dressed in a Santa costume by the way?
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"However many Hull fans were there today, I wish the KC received that many away fans on a regular basis!'"
I wish we had that many away fans.
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| dont know where gronk was looking all i saw was owen offering out hull fans cause he didnt like getting picked on
bless his cotton socks
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| Not going to read through all the tripe, fact is theres a minority at every club that need banning and getting them out of our sport. Said man who through beer at cas teenager is obviously one who needs naming and shaming by his fellow supporters to there own club. So is anyone who chucked stuff at Owen wether owen said something or not.
I no for a fact on friday i will be giving Owen loads of stick as it winds him up and puts him off his game. But throwing things and taking light hearted banter to far and it turning into offensive isnt needed in our game. BY ANY TEAMS FANS.
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