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| St's had a tough game today!! Jonny Lomax was taken off injured, Wilkin left the field with a bad shoulder/arm.......all in all this could be our chance for a sneaky against the odds win!!
C'mon Cas!
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| Lomax and Wilkin off today. Wellens and Laffranchi out as well (not sure if they'll be back).
I'm worried because in first half, Wakey seemed to take us to pieces up the middle. Roby will have a field day.
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| I think Saints will be a tough test, but we might just have a sniff of a chance in this one!
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| 2 average teams today, wakey got carried away and didn't play well.... We did our best to blow up at the end of the first half but played well second half.
Chuffed to bits with the win, but not sure Wakey and Saints are comparable, Wellens and Lafranchi will be back, they had 1 game suspensions.
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| Cas by 4, saints arent the saints of 3 or 4 years ago
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| Quote ="forrard"Cas by 4, saints arent the saints of 3 or 4 years ago'"
You underestimate them and over estimate us! We beat Wakey!
One step at a time.
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| I can't see anything but a defeat for us on Monday. Saints are still too big, too fast and too strong for us. We should have our eyes firmly fixed on fev next week, the saints game is just a distraction in my opinion.
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| Wilkins as dislocated his shoulder.
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| After seeing our team, no chance in hell will we win on monday.
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| Quote ="forrard"Cas by 4, saints arent the saints of 3 or 4 years ago'"
Yesterday wasn't the team of 1 or 2 weeks ago.With my red vee glasses on Saints by 10.You have a big game next weekend.Then again so do we.We need to win, big game for us on Monday.
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| Oddly, now having seen the squads, I think we will be in the game at half time, just on sheer adrenalin and enthusiasm.
I think the size and power will show out in the end, Flannery, puletua, roby, soliola, Laffranchi, perry, Mc-scarsbrook, clough, wheeler, Wellens, hohia, shenton..... Gardner meli and go on then, Dixon- that's quite a lot of size, power, experience for a saints team..... Not a pessimist, but not feeling Monday...... But the team going out has no expectation, everyone will expect them to get tonked, stranger things have happened.
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| I expect Roby to rip us to shreds sadly.
Our weakness in the first half was down the middle where Wakey had a field-day. Roby is world-class and will take full advantage of that. Therefore, we have to be extremely tight around the ruck and move out quick and knock him on his backside before he can make any significant ground.
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| Quote ="mdean"Oddly, now having seen the squads, I think we will be in the game at half time, just on sheer adrenalin and enthusiasm.
I think the size and power will show out in the end, Flannery, puletua, roby, soliola, Laffranchi, perry, Mc-scarsbrook, clough, wheeler, Wellens, hohia, shenton..... Gardner meli and go on then, Dixon- that's quite a lot of size, power, experience for a saints team..... Not a pessimist, but not feeling Monday...... But the team going out has no expectation, everyone will expect them to get tonked, stranger things have happened.'"
There are 1 or two of those your put in the scarey list that If I was a Cas Fan I honestly would not worry about.I won't say who they are but I would say that at least 2 of them would only be squad players in any SL side.
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| Quote ="saint mac"There are 1 or two of those your put in the scarey list that If I was a Cas Fan I honestly would not worry about.I won't say who they are but I would say that at least 2 of them would only be squad players in any SL side.'"
Sorry I am still suffering from massive disapointment from yesterday.I should of said they would be squad players in all the sides in the top half of the table.
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| The Monday game is always a bit of an unknown. How much has been taken out of both sides etc.
In our favour we will have two class players fresh to the team in Wellens and La Frank.
Against us is our form. We can't read too much into the derby loss, but by the same principle we can't read too much into the previous 2 wins. The Cas game is in the middle of our 7 game run under the new management, a win for Saints may indicate that we are back in the fight a loss may indicate that the Leeds and Wire wins where just the turn around sides get with a new coach.
It will be a bit of a unknown side that lines up against Cas and we have no idea who the other halfback or kicker will be?
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| Surely it'll be:
Wellens, Gardner, Shenton, Jones, Meli, Wheeler, Hohaia, Perry, Roby, McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Soliola, Dixon, Puletua.
Bench: Flanagan, Laffranchi, Clough, Flannery.
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| Quote ="Fully"Surely it'll be:
Wellens, Gardner, Shenton, Jones, Meli, Wheeler, Hohaia, Perry, Roby, McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Soliola, Dixon, Puletua.
Bench: Flanagan, Laffranchi, Clough, Flannery.'"
I would expect laffranchi to start at prop, along with perry, he certainly did before his ban, and they laid the platform for our wins over Leeds and Warrington. Wheeler is an injury doubt as usual, and we are down to our fourth choice goal kicker, who could be any one of the 17! Hopefully we won't be needing a kick to win the game in the last minute.
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| Really hope our fringe players step up and put a good shift today, I know Saints had a tough game Friday but they still should have too much for us...two players in particular could have a field day (Puletua & Roby).
Not sure who will play fullback for us today?. Hope Ben Johnson gets a run at scrum half but i'm guessing they will go with Mcgoldrick or Milner.
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| Without Chase, Orr & Clark it's hard to see where any attacking guile will come from.
Take out Millington from the forwards and in the continued absence of Huby (hopefully back in the next couple of weeks) our pack looks way too light against a side that always seems too big and strong against us.
Looking at Saints squad the majority of their big stars seem set to back up with the only absentees being players that picked up obvious injuries in their game on Friday. They're in a much better position to be able to rotate their squad due to it having more strength in depth so its interesting to see that they've chosen not to.
A certain Sky pundit pointed out a few seasons ago that the best way to judge where a team will finish is to look at their points for/against. Only Widnes have a worse one than Cas, anyone think we'll finish higher than 13th this season?!
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| Quote ="Cecil B"Without Chase, Orr & Clark it's hard to see where any attacking guile will come from.
Take out Millington from the forwards and in the continued absence of Huby (hopefully back in the next couple of weeks) our pack looks way too light against a side that always seems too big and strong against us.
Looking at Saints squad the majority of their big stars seem set to back up with the only absentees being players that picked up obvious injuries in their game on Friday. They're in a much better position to be able to rotate their squad due to it having more strength in depth so its interesting to see that they've chosen not to.
A certain Sky pundit pointed out a few seasons ago that the best way to judge where a team will finish is to look at their points for/against. Only Widnes have a worse one than Cas, anyone think we'll finish higher than 13th this season?!'"
I do, we'll be lucky to finish above Widnes!
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| Quote ="Cecil B"Without Chase, Orr & Clark it's hard to see where any attacking guile will come from.
Take out Millington from the forwards and in the continued absence of Huby (hopefully back in the next couple of weeks) our pack looks way too light against a side that always seems too big and strong against us.
Dont choke on those words , our team were magnifcent in defeat, just wonder what we could have done with the starting 17 from the bottle chuckers game
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| Just wonder what we could have done if Griffin had sorted out his footballing skills and if we had a fair crack of the whip from the man in green.
Cannot fault the performance. We played with grit and determination and gave a real 100% effort. I thought Ferres and Dicko were outstanding. Hudson always impresses me too - he just seems to make more metres from acting half. Perhaps Milner has also found his new role in the halves.
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| I thought McGoldrick had his best game for Cas I've seen for 2 or 3 years
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| Quote ="castigersdave"I thought McGoldrick had his best game for Cas I've seen for 2 or 3 years'"
He certainly threw the match-winning pass
He touched the ball about 100 times, giving 2 or 3 telling passes. a low percentage for a halfback.
He failed to break any tackles and while 3 of his kicks were excellent, 4 of them were poor.
He did OK if your honest
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| Don't worry Forrard, I won't be choking on my words...
Happy to admit I was wrong in fearing yet another hiding at the hands of Saints. However, I stand by what I said about the absence of Orr, Chase & Clark.
Reckon that had any of those 3 played we would be reflecting on a marvellous victory and 3rd league win on the bounce rather than heroic defeat.
Despite what people have said about McGoldrick having a great game I'd side with Lord Bruce Burton in his view - he had a lot of involvement without creating a great deal. Would be very concerned if we were relying on him as our creative outlet for the rest of the season.
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