this given by someone with an american football avatar,
yeah like im going to pay attention

You don't even know me pal!

I'm not arguing with your concerns about player safety, I'm saying Wigan are playing within the rules of the game..Fact.

You are very wrong about the rate of long term injuries within the sport, there are far less now than there has been. Find me an injury in super league this year that has been caused by poor tackling technique.

You're right, I don't know you. Nor do you know me so why you're referring to me as 'pal' is a mystery, unless you're engaging in some attempt at a humorous irony. My interpretation is based on your keyboard persona. You may be sound as a pound in person, so why be different on here if that's the case?


I don't believe I said Wigan weren't playing within the rules of the game. Indeed what I believe has happened is a number of fans have become aggreived with what's perceived to be a dangerous tackling technique, the interpretation of which is unclear on the part of the governing body.


As I said I have no figures on this, it's purely a perception - I don't recall a time when there has seemed to be quite so many injuries. Do you have any figures to share on this?

all tainted by the fact you have just lost against us, and couldnt break us down that well

Do you have any awareness of what this debate is about because it really doesn't seem that way. Try having a re-read before making another pathetic trolling attempt.

yeah course i do, but it seems to be after any team loses against us this debate happens, therefore making it sound like sour grapes,
rugby league has never been safe, infact there are less serious injuries now than ever before, we are doing nothing wrong in the tackle, your teams just cant cope and if we carry on wrapping our players up in cotton wool we might as well just go play tick and pass, and fall even more behind the aussies,

Sour grapes? I have absolutely no sour grapes towards last night's defeat what so ever. I actually expected us to get quite a severe beating and I felt our performance suggested that we have some excellent young talent in the ranks at Cas who are hungry for the game and to do well for their town. They gave Wigan a real tough game with the odds stacked against them and the players and fans can be proud of that fact.

I wouldn't say we couldn't cope either - both teams had a good go at smashing eachother about although a fair number of those in the East stand didn't seem to happy about that judging by the moans.



What's keeping us a long way behind the Aussies in my opinion is the fact that teams that employ slowing tactics (i.e. Wakefield, Crusaders, Bradford, Harlequins, Salford) are allowed to get away with it. They should be being penalised and forced to accommodate those teams that want to play an expansive game. Last night was a good example of two teams that like to give the ball some air, doing just that. But unfortunatley, even the fastest teams here aren't at the pace of the NRL, nor will they be if the play-the-ball isn't speeded up and controlled across the board.

Its not their tackling technique that gets to me its when other deploy similar tactics against them....slowing the play the ball down & then pie eaters are up in arms about it all complaining like there's no tomorrow!

Tomkin brothers are ones for their snide grabbing hold of the tackler technique to win a penalty which really gets up my a*$e.......I have full respect for the both of them regarding rugby skills but these snide actions are just plain cheating IMO and should be cut out by the officials.

i just dont think you would be complaining and moaning if you had won.

I certainly would. Wigan are NOT breaking the rules. Lets get that straight. But they have developed a style that needs a rule change. Fairly groundbreaking to be fair. They often hold up players and the third man dives at the lower limb, below the knee - Cannonballing. This is dangerous.

They also employ numerous twisting techniques once the pace of the collision has gone. This isnt grappling, but has the same dangerous effect. They of course arent the only onces who do this, but they do do it the most.

If this becomes a trend then serious joint injuries will increase.

I couldnt give a monkey what team it is, but its something the RFL needs to take a very serious view of. I do not for one minute think Wigan do it to injure players. They do it to dominate the PTB, and it does work - but it doesnt make it right.

You dont need statistical evidence, although Im sure it would be easy to compile. You just need eyes and a brain!

Huddersfiled have been doing this for a year longer than us but is ignored...quality

Yes, true. It needs addressing, end of.

show us evidence that it is illegal, and that it is increasing injurys then we might listen, and prove that it is just wigan.
cos i know for a fact that its not just us, and your lads do it just as much if not more

I have not once seen a Cas player attack the ball carriers knee whilst held up in a tackle.

Apologies if im wrong, but you dont seem very bright or able to read.

My post clearly states it does not break the rules - but is a new worrying trend that needs addressing.

I also state your not the only team that does it, but it is more prevelant with Wigan than any other teams.

Hope the big words dont cause confusion!!

if we not breaking the rules, and u have no evidence that our style is not increasing injuries in the game, then sit down n shut up,
your only moaning cos you lost.

You're wasting your time Truewiganer, they're moron's, there only seems to be Bonzo that can actually have a discussion. As for Cheshire Tiger blinkered is not the word! I bet if they played Hudds next week and got stuffed he would be spouting the same drivel about tackling technique. Clearly a very bitter individual that vents his frustration at other teams so called techniques rather than considering his own teams failings.

Wigan play within the rules and are top of the table. End of

Is there really any need? I don't think that's the best way to generate sensible debate and discussion is it?

I've already told you that concerns were raised weeks before Wednesday's game. So please stop talking TRIPE!!!

So you are trying to tell me some of what Cheshire tiger and Gonzo have said has been a good way to "generate sensible debate and discussion"??

You can't have sensible debate with people like that

by teams we have beaten, uve only raised it cos u didnt win
common theme!

I don't believe I said that, but this is their board after all - enter the Tigers den at your own risk I believe is the adage. No doubt had they ventured onto your board with a similar debate there'd have been an adverse reaction there too.



Get over yourself! We know that you beat us, we all accept that. There've been plenty of games that we've won this season where there've been incidents and techniques that were hotly debated here afterwards. I suspect it would've been raised regardless of the result.

i suspect not,
every thread about this only happens once we have beaten u,
but let belive what you want, try and justify it
its all bs, grow up, stop complaining,

you have no evidence or proof that we are doing anything wrong, illegal, increasing injuries, nothing, so if you really dont like me questioning and pushing for evidence then that your problem,

Who are you actually aiming your comments at here? You seem to be repeating yourself an awful lot. As I recall there have been a few threads on this of late, and we've only played you twice - you've only beaten us once.

Having checked when the thread drift started (it's about Jake Emmitt by the way) you're one of the instigators. Time for it to be consigned to thread heaven methinks.