No he gets spotted by a top 4 club and THEY sign him and do little but give him a shop-window. THAT's how it works.

Petty predictable argument from a certain few. Same fans who say Mathers is e, but will be cheering him when he pulls on a shirt. Stop points scoring and trying to get one over on individuals and debate rugby.


For me, I felt the Aussies played Chase out of the game. They constantly ran Thaiday and Williams at him and our defence that side didn't seem switched on enough either to back up Chase, who never took a backward step against these two man mountains. Problem is though Chase isn't big enough for one on one against them and only Wilkin seemed to back him up in the tackle. Attack wise Chase early on did his signature move of running across the line and repeated dummies. Unfortunately the Aussies were switched on and Luke Lewis ( I think can't remember) tackled the man not the ball. He took no crap and simply tackled Chase. Chase then proceeded to lay off first time for Wilkin back on the inside and I felt later on he was lining up for a dummy and go himself. Unfortunately again the Aussies defence was always spot on and he never got the chance. We did get one glimmer of hope which had the whole crowd on their feet and for a second we all hoped Chase could do something special but he couldn't make the gap.


On the game itself, for me seeing Tomkins bottle it gave the Aussies even more enthusiasm. Out wide Yeaman or Briscoe fluffed a high ball and apart from Reed our wing centre partnerships didn't seem strong enough in defence and the Aussies new this. We were too slow in the middle getting up to the tackle 60% of the time which gave them momentum and then ultimately gave them the chance to attack in numbers far too many times. The Brisbane/Queensland connection yet again outstanding and seeing them attack and defend as a unit was fantastic rugby. Sam Thaiday the biggest bloke on the pitch was the guy backing up the play when they broke through and the guy running the ball in when we'd put in a deep kick. Fantastic advert for any young kid with a bit of weight on him proving you don't have to look like a lump of lard and can still look like an athlete.

One thing I was explaining to my lad at the game was that when it comes to that level of rugby, every man on the field needs to know the bloke stood next to him will put his body on the line for him. He needs to know he'll risk his own neck to catch the ball, stop the runner or go that extra mile to be on his mates shoulder to finish the move. The Aussies all did that. They were all rough and tough and ran for each other. We had a few, and we also had a few who don't quite know what international rugby is about. The Aussies pick big rough tough hard men who can also play a bit of rugby. We pick guys who are good at scoring tries playing for top teams against bottom sides.

Looking back, it's great to see Lockyer out on a high. What a player, wish I'd. tuned into Aussie rugby sooner (only been watching it about 5 years). Proper professional and truly a great of our game. He's achieved many great things and some might even never be passed but the one thing that he has done that many won't think about is, he'll have inspired stacks of kids to play the game all with his name on their back. He's already inspired some kid in Australia to follow in his footsteps and it won't be long before we see another special player to take his place.

Marvellous....we await the next Jonty Parkin then,and international rugby in this country will be saved



So easy taking pot shots at other teams players when your team has contributed nothing this series...or whenever the last time it was.

If Wakefield do get players into next years squad you and a few others will soon be defending them if they don't set the world alight.

I couldnt tell while at the game but can anyone remember who the england player was that knocked on reeds pass with the line begging?

Gareth Ellis, but the pass wasn't great either.

No: the tactics were wrong and he wasn't given the ball enough to make things happen because Sinfield wanted to be the main man in every set.

Only if they deserve defending on performance and not because of club colours if and when they pull on a England shirt.

If club fans can't see past club colours thats not really my concern and i have no time for them tbh.

can we finally put to bed how overated and out of his depth chase is now

I feel the same way - the blind loyalty from some Cas fans towards a player who quite clearly hasn't cut it at international level is a bit baffling.

Just in the same way the red, white and blue corner take great glee on coming on to the Cas forum every game and posting how 'average' he has been in their opinion.

It's not blind loyalty. It's called sticking up for a mercurial, talented player who has not had the opportunity to showcase his talents because he is not the key man and is over-powered by Sinfield who wants to control everything.

Wow its all Rangis fault, Get over yourself who do you think you are. he didnt have a great game no simply because the Oz pack dominated the game and allowed Thurston to run it, simple

But lets not stop that fact stop you Rangi bashing you truely are a k@ob in your own self rightious world, crawl back to your board and suck up to AG because soon you will be better than Wire (Ha Ha)

Very contibutive, no really your intellect is astounding.

Chase has been fantastic for Cas, a worthy recipient of his awards but found out at international level because he's not good enough.

Rangi had no ball because kevin (blue eyed boy) sinfield had it all.
Watch the game again as i have and you will see.

Gosh, that's not at all like you; either your 13 year old daughter has hijacked your account, or you're taking this Chase business very personally indeed.

The fact remains - all the backs were dire and Rangi (whom this thread is about) was especially so; if it makes you feel better, so were Sinfield, Briscoe, Yeaman and Tomkins.

Without your club specs on, you must accept that Rangi is a great SL player but doesn't have the right skillset or attitude to play at international level? The Kiwi's obviously realised that and now we know why.

It was a fine romance, but now it's over!

Let's face it, you're even more obsessed with Chase than you'd like to admit, as you're STILL coming on here spouting off. Maybe you just ought to go and have a nice lie down and relieve your obsession some other way.

I agree 100% with that. I hate the fact he his playing for England when he's clearly not English, but putting that to one side, although he is genuinely one of the top half backs in Super League, if he was world class he would be playing regularly in the NRL. Who knows, maybe if that was the case he would have been lining up for Australia last night.

1. He is not English but clearly eligible to play. Get over it, other sports have been doing the same for years, as have the Australian RL team.
2. Not all world class players play in the NRL you know - there are plenty of players who choose to play in SL but could easily play in the NRL if they wanted to. In Rangi's case I think it's more to do with the more positive lifestyle he leads over here (and the fact that any minor incident might get him locked up in Australia).
3. You don't like Chase playing for England, but suggest he could have been selected by Australia? Technically he could have been, but I'd suggest he's got a long way to go before he is better than Lockyer.

No, I won't get over it. I don't care how what other sports do, or even what the Australians do, it doesn't make it right. I don't want mercenaries representing my country.

Out of interest, what do you think makes someone English?

In sporting terms i'd like to say born here or parents born here or spent the majority of you life here (not 3 years).

ooooh could that be seen as racist, even more than me wanting to buy a poppy from a corner shop ????

RANGI for England

Trouble is you can't be vague with these things. "Spent the majority of life" is very ambiguous, are you saying that if you are 20 you have to have lived here for 10+ years, but if you are 30 you have to have lived here 15+ years to be English?
What about when Chase has an English passport, is he English then?

Being born here. That may seem harsh, but where do you draw the line with the parents/grandparents/residency rules? The same applies to Chris Heighington, who has spent his whole life in Australia. And for the record, before I'm accused of being anti-Castleford, we've got a potential England prop forward in Kyle Amor. However, he's now played for Ireland which in my opinion means he should never be considered for England in the future. The same goes for Danny Brough, who clearly decided he was Scottish until England came calling. We have a club game for players to transfer between sides, the international game should be about representing your nation, not about which ever country will pick you.

Were you born in Cas? No?

Don't post on this forum any more.

Logical, fair and to your rules. Simples!

Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Trouble is you can't be vague with these things. "Spent the majority of life" is very ambiguous, are you saying that if you are 20 you have to have lived here for 10+ years, but if you are 30 you have to have lived here 15+ years to be English? What about when Chase has an English passport, is he English then?'" That very fact Rangi doesn't hold a British passport surely says something? On a slightly different tangent the Kiwi's seem to think he's a Kiwi too. www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/no ... sfeed=true

Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Trouble is you can't be vague with these things. "Spent the majority of life" is very ambiguous, are you saying that if you are 20 you have to have lived here for 10+ years, but if you are 30 you have to have lived here 15+ years to be English? What about when Chase has an English passport, is he English then?'" That very fact Rangi doesn't hold a British passport surely says something? On a slightly different tangent the Kiwi's seem to think he's a Kiwi too. www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/no ... sfeed=true