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| Quote ="Speedy"The polecats will have to go to a public enquiry end of, that will be a minimum of 12 months from any potential planning permissions, they cant get away with it, it effects 200 acres of greenbelt.
Oh nice to see vastypants has crawled back out still talking out of his anus i see, if he cares to read the statutory statement from Leeds council he will see what the councils policy is, not one mans, but the council [url=http://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/lg/GFPlanningDocuments.page?org.apache.shale.dialog.DIALOG_NAME=gfplanningsearch&Param=lg.Planning&viewdocs=true&SDescription=10/00225/OUTintresting Reading, Section 5[/url
IE THE PLANS PANEL (NOT JUST ONE COUNCILOR) RAISED STRONG OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSAL ON GREEN BELT HIGHWAYS AND NATURE CONSERVATION GROUNDS..... CONT AND THEN IT GOES ONTO SAY THAT IN ADDITION A COUNCILOR GOLTON MADE THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS TO WHICH LARGLY REFLECTS THE PANELS POSITION
The plans panel considered that the overall amount of the development was "unwelcome and unnecessary" and also requested that officers sent a copy of the objection directly to the goverment Office
So vastypants, please engage brain before putting mouth into gear eh
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So what!
We'll just have to sit tight won't we. We may have to go down to NL1 but so be it, at least we won't be playing at Glasshoughton and thats best for both clubs. So stop worrying about Wakefeild and get on with building a stadium at Glasshoughton and let us at Wakefield worry about ours.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"So what!
We'll just have to sit tight won't we. We may have to go down to NL1 but so be it, at least we won't be playing at Glasshoughton and thats best for both clubs. So stop worrying about Wakefeild and get on with building a stadium at Glasshoughton and let us at Wakefield worry about ours.'"
I dont give too hoots what you polecats do, apart from when some of you come on here spouting crap 
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| Quote ="chissitt"People can debate about the 2 stadiums while they are blue in the face as far as I am concerned, It will only interest me if and when the bulldozers' start levelling the ground and the concrete is being poured, and as for Mr Box that man will say anything bar his prayers as been the case in the past on numerous occasions regarding Wakey so i think you will find that a lot of Wakey fans might be a lot happier than they were, You will find the majority are far from ecstatic atm. I just find it annoying when such as Marshy criticises Wakey fans for discussing it on here but finds it acceptable for Cas fans to discuss it on the Wakey board, I would point out though that debating is usually done by two sensible parties and not where one is simply out to insult the other people, for comformation of this read the two threads on the Wakey board regarding stadiums.'"
I wont reply on Marshy's behalf he's bigger than me! apart from that i agree mate we have all be arguing the t*ss but the RFL have not recently said we need to merge nor have they said any of us are out.
But i think were right to suspect one of us will go, least not for failing to deliver on a promise albeit in a recession.
I love this game and have never wished any ill on Wakefield as a club, i have some very good friends who are Trins , i also see that widnes are a better prospect than us both at the moment if you consider facilities alone.
We will all be judged when the time comes and will all wake up the next morning with real worries and not just those of where our colours will play.
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| I think you will find there is little chance of a public enquiry.
Newmarket will be reclassified under the LDF in 2013, maybe earlier, this has already been ratified by the SoS.
The classification of "greenbelt" land was only ever a temporary measure to eliminate/marginalize tipping and out traveling friends. FACT.
The land the stadium will sit on is not in question.
If our stadium bid had moved to J32 the development would still have gone ahead without the community facilities- it would just have sat dormant until the reclassification- how ironic for the protesters...
The council have given us the nod and I have no doubt that come September we will be given outline planning permission. The community trust members (as well as SWAG) have already said our full application is amended following the HA report and ready for submission as soon as we get outline permission.
Please Speedy use the loaf old fella.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"I think you will find there is little chance of a public enquiry.
Newmarket will be reclassified under the LDF in 2013, maybe earlier, this has already been ratified by the SoS.
The classification of "greenbelt" land was only ever a temporary measure to eliminate/marginalize tipping and out traveling friends. FACT.
If our stadium bid had moved to J32 the development would still have gone ahead without the community facilities- it would just have sat dormant until the reclassification- how ironic for the protesters...
The council have given us the nod and I have no doubt that come September we will be given outline planning permission. The community trust members (as well as SWAG) have already said our full application is amended following the HA report and ready for submission as soon as we get outline permission.
Please Speedy use the loaf old fella.'"
It may be reclassified in 2013 but that doesn't make a difference. Now is not 2013. By virtue of their own UDP, it is greenbelt and therefore that in itself is a reason to reject the plan until 2013.
Nobody knows what the council have said. For all we know, it could have been 'fine, get on with it but we'll do it by the book and give it no favouritism as a result of your decision'.
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| The LDF replaced the UDP. It was approved in April 2009 to the best of my knowledge.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"The LDF replaced the UDP. It was approved in April 2009 to the best of my knowledge.'"
Whatever it is - I don't know much about that mumbo jumbo. However, the land is not due to be reclassified until 2013. The fact it is going to be changed doesn't make a jot of difference. It is still greenfield/greenbelt, whatever it is called, and by that fact, it should go through the proper channels.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"I think you will find there is little chance of a public enquiry.
Newmarket will be reclassified under the LDF in 2013, maybe earlier, this has already been ratified by the SoS.
The classification of "greenbelt" land was only ever a temporary measure to eliminate/marginalize tipping and out traveling friends. FACT.
The land the stadium will sit on is not in question.
If our stadium bid had moved to J32 the development would still have gone ahead without the community facilities- it would just have sat dormant until the reclassification- how ironic for the protesters...
The council have given us the nod and I have no doubt that come September we will be given outline planning permission. The community trust members (as well as SWAG) have already said our full application is amended following the HA report and ready for submission as soon as we get outline permission.
Please Speedy use the loaf old fella.'"
Dont have to you Donkey, ive been involved with PP's for years and with PE's chuck, Why the hell would you put in for Outline planning if you are ready with the full planning submission, The reason for outline is to clear the way so you know what exactly has to be done for full, But if your ready with the full then you submit that 
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| this is getting boring both teams need new grounds?? well thats wrong to start with cas can stay at WR although maybe not in SL as we own it, how long can wakey stay at BV! good luck to both clubs all this crap is really putting me off the game of RL, while ever Bradford play at that dump we both should fine!! 
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| Quote ="baztiger"this is getting boring both teams need new grounds?? well thats wrong to start with cas can stay at WR although maybe not in SL as we own it, how long can wakey stay at BV! good luck to both clubs all this crap is really putting me off the game of RL, =#FF0000while ever Bradford play at that dump we both should fine!! icon_moon.gif'"
Like you, I can't see any point in all this what will be will be.
Agree with you about Bradford  also HKR is as bad. That temporary stand for away fans as been up a few years now .
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| Quote ="chissitt" I just find it annoying when such as Marshy criticises Wakey fans for discussing it on here but finds it acceptable for Cas fans to discuss it on the Wakey board, '"
What Cas fans do on the Wakey board isn't up to me, nor is it a concern of mine. I [isometimes[/i post on the Wakey board and when i do it is with respect and iirc all my posts on the stadium issues on the wakey board have been in support of WTWC and their fans getting the stadium you all deserve.
Also, i have never criticised wakey fans for posting on here, i welcome debate and going back to my moderator days on here I would stick up for every fan of every club for the right to visit any board and that still stands. However, and you can read my post from earlier, i simply suggested that if people wish to discuss the stadium debate that they actually discuss facts and not twist them or rewrite them to suit their argument. Kind of what you did suggesting i don't want Wakey fans to post on here, but it's ok for Cas fans to post on the Wakey board. Which is obviously (to me anyway) something i never wrote. I'm guessing the bit you twisted/took the wrong way is from this quote?
Quote ="marshman"But ffs Wakey fans, don't come on here spouting blatant lies'"
That still stands, however i will apologise to the masses of Wakey fans if you took this as me saying "you are all not welcome here" (which i obviously did not write) when in actual fact, what is meant is "don't come on here spouting blatant lies" (which is obviously what i did write). As in, those who do post blatant lies can feck right off cos we can all do without it.
And lastly, i forgot to add, this isn't an invite for a personal slanging match between us. I'm really not fussed about any of that crap tbh. I'm off camping tomorrow for a few days so won't read replies anyway! 
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."I am sure Hull FC/KR fans would disagree if they both started to play out of the KC?'" That is a better comment than you know.
We (HKR) were offered to play at the KC when it was first being considered we said 'Its across town so no thanks, we will take our own chances ta'.
3/4 years later we get promoted and look at us now.
My point is that just because 1 club is disapointed doesnt mean it the end of the road for em they just need to work that little bit harder.
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| This might have been discussed before, but why dont Wakefield Council just split the money? So, if they are offering to invest for example £4m in helping to finance a new (shared?) stadium, why not £2m to finance GH and £2m to finance NM?
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| Quote ="Hightown Tiger"This might have been discussed before, but why dont Wakefield Council just split the money? So, if they are offering to invest for example £4m in helping to finance a new (shared?) stadium, why not £2m to finance GH and £2m to finance NM?'"
Technically, they're not giving money out.
They offered a piece of land to each club to loan money against, with each piece of land yielding £2m. What you stated is effectively what they offered 9 months back - each club would have the land to loan against. They are now reneging on that offer and saying that unless each club groundshares they will take back both of those pieces of land and neither club will have the £2m.
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| Quote ="Fully"www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/rugby-league/cas-hold-fire-on-wakefield-snub-over-stadium-2036213.html'"
Cas attended the meeting last thursday did they not, so the bit about wanting to know about the study does not make sense.
Having said that this whole sorry saga makes no sense.
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| Quote ="vastman"Leeds Council can say what they like, they have not got the power or the will to force the issue - straws clutching of.'"
Bull....the of.
FFS Vasty, get a grip. Did you actually bother to read the link? As has been metioned earlier, it isn't one man objecting. All concerned parties have a right of objection and LCC are a concerned party.
And of course, when you speak and say 'end of' that must be final then, eh? You really do have an overblown sense of your own importance.
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| Quote ="binks"i also see that widnes are a better prospect than us both at the moment if you consider facilities alone.'"
The franchise process doesn't work on facilities alone and the RFL would be wise to remember that.
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| lol i No that was a dig at everyone saying were out if no stadium
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| take from it what you will i'm a see it to believe kind of person
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by the way i'm new hi
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| Hi, now go sit in the naughty corner for starting a new thread about an old topic 
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| So the Wakefield Council have nailed their colours to the mast! Lets face it i don't see how Wakey could manufacture a new stadium without the undivided loyalty and backing of the council. At least we know where we all stand now and we have to progress forward on our own. oh how i'd love to see the LCC put the Newmarket "dream" to bed and then see Teddy and the rest of them knocking on our door!
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