As a Warrington fan I really hope Cas sign Ellis.

SL needs teams such as Cas to be a real force. We cant have Warrington, Wigan, Saints and Leeds picking up all the best talent all of the time or else the competition is going to get dull and boring.

I cant see Warrington having an interest in Ellis to be honest, we are ok for 2nd rowers. We have other areas that need looking at for 2013.

Where did he say he was?

You forgot davies, also I cant see us not retaining at least one of snitch, Mitchell and jones.

Carlsberg, dont touch the stuff , its a ladies drink.

Your obsession with Cas is really getting to you isnt it ? Just come out of the closet and admit you would sooner be over this side than wallowing on the peacock

Another major jizz-fest happening on the Wakey board I see. And from a club who always pay their bills.

I couldn't agree more but it is up to Cas to show the ambition and make sure that we get Gareth signed up as early as possible. For me RW has no excuses not to make an offer that Gareth Ellis cannot refuse and it doesn't need to be a bank breaking offer either.
Such a key signing would kick start the regeneration of success at Cas. If the young lads aren't enthused by such an iconic player coming then I don't know what will, the opportunity to learn so much will be invaluable to not only each individual player but to the club also. Other potential signings would also see the signing of GE as an indication of the club's ambition.
I think without doubt that crowd's would increase on his signing alone which would generate more cash for better players and produce even bigger crowds. It worked for Warrington so there is no reason why it can't work for us, it's down to one man to regain his credibility and lead the club forward.

So Mr Wright get your finger out and finally prove to us all your worth.

Oh your back, no change of identity this time?

Well I do recall the words......'we will be signing [uQuality[/u not [uQuantity[/u'. A good chance to put the money where the mouth is....we certainly haven't signed the Quantity so lets bring Ellis home and make good on the Quality part of the statement.

More than an utterance of caution is required here - I have seen it hundreds of times before with sports.

This is little more than badge kissing and in the cold light of day won't make a blind bit of difference come signature time; I am not having a pop at Gaz Ellis in any way, but he is a comodity and his interest (rightly so) is mercenary in a short career to look after his family for his post playing career, so this is little more than he and his agent creating a demand and inviting other clubs as well to "break the pull of his heart strings to Cas" and make him re-think his boyhood dreams - the best way to rethink my dreams is £00's on a cheque.

So, in the interests of balance if Gaz Ellis wanted to come to Cas above all other things, he instructs his agent to contact our club quietly without discussing it, gets our best offer and negotiates. At that stage if that is not what he was hoping, then he can contact choices 2 and 3 for balance, there is no need for this come and get me facade other than to pretend no fuss is wanted, when in fact a fuss is the objective.

I can't believe people are as naive as to simply read the words at face value and tell Richie W the prize is there for the taking. Master stroke from Ellis and his people either way now. There is not a Coach, Chairman or anyone connected with any club side in the world would not talk to Gaz Ellis in either code if he wanted to chat about a contract.

Dont believe the way things look at first glance people, it's sport business not a mills and boon. I always say I would give anything for a pro-SL contract at Cas, but when it comes down to it a £20k per year pay as you play contract would soon take the edge of my love and devotion and see me back at my day job!

It does seem a little strange that people in Cas seem blissfully unaware of this yet the Wakey fans know all the ins and outs...

Just had a peep and it seems to be a massive circle tug by all the usual (in the know) suspects.

They havent been so excited since that window fitter turned up or crusaders handed them a lifeline in the big league. Shame that big Kid of theirs wont let us join in.

You make my heart sing, you make everything .....groovy ............................................. sad sack

CAS WONT BE ABLE TO AFFORD GARETH ELLIS SURELY



IF YOU SIGNED HIM YOUD HAVE TO GET RID OF HALF THE SQUAD TO ACCOMODATE HIM

Just when an actual discussion was about to break out.

Why do I bother coming here at all.

OUT OF ALL THE SL CLUBS, I DOUBT CAS ARE TOP OF THE LIST OF THOSE HE WOULD JOIN, EVEN IF YOU OFFERED HIM THE BEST DEAL FINANCIALLY

YAWN

Common sense, as usual; whilst ever there are clubs with bottomless wallets and the ability to circumnavigate the salary cap, a commodity with as much value as Ellis will go with the money. This flirtation with the media is nothing more than his agent's marketing campaign and it's a simple but very effective strategy - he'll now be fielding contacts from every SL club and will, I'm sure, go with the best offer, after whittling them down and playing one off against the other for a while to get the best deal.

I'm not condemning Ellis by the way - he has a short career and a family to consider.

Bren - totally agree with your assessment, but I am more concerned that some of the black and amber loyalists seem to think that it is Richard Wright's signature to lose and believe this media show - while some criticism is valid, if this plays out as we all expect, it wont be valid in this instance.

I don't doubt it although in fairness, Gareth's own interview from May last year stating he'd like to end his career at Cas won't have helped the situation in terms of managing people's expectations.

If it helps, Richard Agar has also said publicly today that WTW would put themselves into the mix for the Ellis signature; as, I'm sure, will every SL club in England.

That's not true and a bit of an over-reaction; the majority of the posts on that thread are positive about Cas.

if it was just about the money surely he could have made more by just staying in oz?

As I said before, it wont take a bank breaking offer to get Gareth to Cas and as we all know money is not the key factor in his move back to SL. I'm in no way influenced by any of the media hype and to be honest I haven't read more than 2 lines of any paper report surrounding his return anyway. He won't go to the club that offers him the most money, he will go to the club that makes him the right offer to fulfill the wishes of himself and his family. This is why I think it is Richard Wrights signature to lose, don't get me wrong, it needs to be a good financial offer but should be well within the finances available to us for 2013 and beyond.

I kept Mitchell - he's on the bench.

No one is questioning that money will play a part in the grand scheme of things and that he has a family to look after. However, Cas can offer him a financially secure deal over a good period (three years) that will be enough to put food on his table and enough in the bank for him (£100k p/yr)

Additionally, I'm also pretty sure that someone of Gareth Ellis's ilk will have a coaching position with his name on it. He's the sort of role model you need around the place and he has that community champion spirit (with his links from Lock Lane).

Stop shouting!

Still think there is a lot of naive guess work and taking Ellis and his agent at their word with no realy consideration of the facts. I am not calling either of them liars, but they have a job to do.

I'd love the romantic notions to be right and maybe I shouldn't be so cynical as to judge everyone by my rather mercinary standards but now we are evolving the theory to include a figure of salary he is likely to accept and a job off the field too. I think people are getting way ahead of themselves.