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| The problem is Yed that people have preconceived ideas of the standard of London base on the fact they have lost all their previous games including a towelling at the hands of Salford. As such any defeat to them will be perceived by Cas fans as a poor showing and to get beaten by that margin looks shambolic.
I wasn't at the game and only listened to it on Yorkshire radio which is likely to be a bit biased (though nowhere near as much as Radio Leeds is!) and can only go on their comments. They indicated that the score was a little tough on Cas and that London will beat plenty of sides playing like that. Of course, having not seen the game myself I don't know how much of that is true. But one comment they made that I would agree with is that on paper London have a pretty good side. Before the season began I had them as anywhere between about 6th & 12th but based on their early season results it looked more like they would be battling with Widnes to avoid the wooden spoon.
On the basis of todays result you can make a case for the battle for bottom place being between Cas & Widnes rather than London
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| 1st half was 50-50 both teams equally as poor as each other,
2nd half Cas came out the blocks first 10-15 mins thought they would come back, then rest of the game just seemed to be London, last 15 minutes Cas looked knackered and London found plenty of easy yards from dummy half and the forwards running through the ruck, Witt also seemed to be finding holes.
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| Quote ="castigersdave"REMOVED'"
Crikey - that has to be the easiest and most emphatic bite Lister has ever had.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"About 250-300, not many.
Thought you where weak around the ruck today, plus losing Orr didn't help.
Enjoyed the game though, it would seem half of the Cas fans that were there were non too impressed at the final whistle, which surprised me as the fans seemed positive until the end, singing throughout then switched at the final whistle.'"
250-300 there at the final whistle perhaps, would have pegged the number at 500-600 myself.
It's a very lonely place the Stoop, I'm not entirely sure where the 2000 announced London fans were, because they weren't in the stands.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"1st half was 50-50 both teams equally as poor as each other,
2nd half Cas came out the blocks first 10-15 mins thought they would come back, then rest of the game just seemed to be London, last 15 minutes Cas looked knackered and London found plenty of easy yards from dummy half and the forwards running through the ruck, Witt also seemed to be finding holes.'"
100% accurate.
Cas mistakes in the first half were chronic. Completion rate must have been around 20%. We made lots of breaks but they were never supported. The game was always going to be won by the team that took their chances - that was London, by a distance.
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| Relegation battle for Cas this season ?
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| Quote ="castigersdave"REMOVED'"
Here I was thinking this thread could be interesting, only to find the same old predictable analysis and debate.
Then along you came...charming, succinct, well articulated and highly intellectual to boot. Congratulations Dave on a most entertaining post.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Fair play, 5 taxis. Very poor following. Very poor side. Long season for you lot unfortunately.'"
I'm sure you're chuckling to your self about the fact you managed to get a bite to what has to be the most ironic statement I have read this season so far!!
You are the cockernee newgroundbeforecas, and take it from me thats not good, thats not good at all!!!!!
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| London had a crowd of over 2300, well done to them !!
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"London had a crowd of over 2300, well done to them !!
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At least a thousand are given away free gratis.
My brother (lives in london) goes most weeks (home games) for nowt!!
It's a joke!!!
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| Where is jungleman????? Truth hurts pal worst team in SL.
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Quote ="sgtwilko"Where is jungleman????? Truth hurts pal worst team in SL.'"
Let me redirect you: viewforum.php?f=35 there you go.
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Let me redirect you: viewforum.php?f=35 there you go.
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Oh dear oh dear! Clutching at straws. Ok you might be better than the team that have come out of the lower league, a team that has been at the back of the line in recruitment and is in its development stage as an SL team.
Lets all laugh at jungleman.
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Oh dear oh dear! Clutching at straws. Ok you might be better than the team that have come out of the lower league, a team that has been at the back of the line in recruitment and is in its development stage as an SL team.
Lets all laugh at jungleman.
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| Quote ="Gazemous"250-300 there at the final whistle perhaps, would have pegged the number at 500-600 myself.
It's a very lonely place the Stoop, I'm not entirely sure where the 2000 announced London fans were, because they weren't in the stands.'"
More like 100 /150 Cas , 900 overall
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| I would say there was a minimum 300 Cas fans at the game, and they did your team proud, as ever. There was no way you deserved to be on the receiving end of a 42-16 defeat. Whilst I was delighted that we finally got a win, I think London's problems are far from solved, and anyone who thinks so is deluded.
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| Quote Heard that Danny orr was taken off injured, do Cas have another recognised halfback'"
He was replaced by Phil Bentham!
2 poor sides. We really played you into the game. Allowing you 2 tries straight after we scored through stupid mistakes.
For 20 mins in the second half we didn't have a prop on the field. Kaufusi, Bryant and Temata were stood by the bike on the edge of the pitch.
Chase although a great player needs to allow others to play. Defending isnt difficult because it all goes to him (Then you just need to stop him which isnt easy)
Millward has a challenge starting Mon on his return.
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| Regarding the numbers in attendance, there were 4 coaches from Castleford (2 official supporters and 2 coaches run via local pubs) so that's 200 before you count those that drove down to make a weekend of it. I would say 300-350 was about the right figure.
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| Quote Heard that Danny orr was taken off injured, do Cas have another recognised halfback'"
Ryan Brierley and unfortunately, Ryan McGoldrick.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Relegation battle for Cas this season ?'" I
If, as seems likely, we finish bottom and if, as is almost certain, we havent laid a brick at GH, I fear that come Autumn we may well be for the chop.
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| Reckon Cas will beat Salford, Hull KR and Widnes so I think you won't finish bottom. (just below wakey )
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| Worst Cas performance I've seen for a long long time and against a pretty poor side too. When we actually held onto the ball and created something, London were very easy to break down. Unfortunately we gifted far too much possession to them and most of our tackling was nothing short of abysmal. The performance was a country mile away from that of last week. Infact we only seem to be able to play very well or very badly at the moment - there's no middle ground.
As ever though, more Cas fans made the trip than we've seen London fans down t'lane in the last 15 years combined. A credit to the club, showing pride and passion - shame the 17 halfwits on the pitch didn't reciprocate.
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| Quote ="Bonzo"Worst Cas performance I've seen for a long long time and against a pretty poor side too. When we actually held onto the ball and created something, London were very easy to break down. Unfortunately we gifted far too much possession to them and most of our tackling was nothing short of abysmal. '"
Says it all about the two sides really doesnt it.
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As ever though, more Cas fans made the trip than we've seen London fans down t'lane in the last 15 years combined. A credit to the club, showing pride and passion - shame the 17 halfwits on the pitch didn't reciprocate.'"
Poor comparison given that its the only away trip of any note, without a jolly down to the south of France, that your fans need to make. Your turnout was pretty poor - still doesnt excuse our poor away crowds - always said that if our fans went to just one away game a year we'd average 250/300 at each one.
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| Quote ="Darthchris"Poor comparison given that its the only away trip of any note, without a jolly down to the south of France, that your fans need to make. Your turnout was pretty poor - still doesnt excuse our poor away crowds - always said that if our fans went to just one away game a year we'd average 250/300 at each one.'"
Our turnout was pretty poor? Maybe you should look a little closer to home before criticising the numbers visiting clubs bring. That trolling idiot was on last week asking if we were bringing 5 taxis - well we brought 4 buses and a then some. It's unfortunate that one could've been led to believe that it was the London fans that had come on the buses, there were so few there and it was their home game.
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| I'd have thought London's travelling support might pick up a bit if they ever manage to average a decent home crowd. Attracting an audience though has always been London's problem.
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| Walking to the ground from the train station, I didn't see a single person going the same direction as me. There were no clues anywhere in the surrounding area that a game was on. It was like walking through the streets of Townville rather than an affluent suburb of the capital city with two sizeable stadiums.
London really need to sort their promotion out close to home. Of course none of this is new, and they are hampered by being so far away from London, but after five full seasons at the Stoop, nothing much seems to have changed in getting the locals (20k in the immediate area) interested.
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