Shhhhhhhhhhh, I think it's a rumour that the police are involved.

In general terms, whenever a disciplinary investigation and a police investigation coincide over the same issue (for example an employee caught with their hand in the till) the disciplinary investigation will be deferred until the police investigation is concluded; that's often at the request of the police. I'm not sure it's a requirement, but it probably is good practice.

Not sure what you can infer from that, but there it is.

Thats what i said looks good coz if Cas are holding an inq then police wont be involved !

Hoping the gossip is a case of the "Chinese Whispers"... and the inquiry by the club is a new, tough stance by the club and coach and a warning about conduct to other squad members.

Have there been any reports in the press prior to Cas announcing the internal hearing? I'm not aware of any but it might explain why Cas would announce the fact they are holding an internal hearing.

Alternatively, the incident was so cut and dry that the police concluded their investigation in short order and now Cas are free to carry out their own internal procedure (which I'm available to help with, at very reasonable rates!)

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Alledgedly scrapping in Pontefract on Christmas night....with blokes dressed as Santa. Taken to police station. Police investigating.

Sounds like his tatoos have taken over his brain like a certain other Cas player

What do tattoos have to do with fighting or anything else?

Bang outta order breaking santas jaw,no presents for him next year !

If he has done something wrong then he should be treated like anyone else in this situation, but there are lots of questions that make a difference to the outcome.
Was he attacked and just defending himself
Were the other guys too drunk to stand up?
Did they give Owen a belt too it just happens that he can punch harder.

It's not enough for the forum jury to convict yet.

My only issue is, what was he doing there. As a pro rugby player he should really be out drinking day before a game. I assume he wasn't playing, but there is an image question rather than physical fitness after drinking.
He'd be better going somewhere quieter, or where he isn't known.....but that's just me.

I generally don't care when stupid people do stupid things to themselves, but this kind of behaviour has a direct negative impact on others and as such, is wholly unnacceptable.

Just hope the lad who ended up in hospital is ok - as you know, a punch to the head from a professional strength athlete is not to be taken lightly.

Alternatively we can just let the police do there job and deal with it as they have the facts Yes Facts,
Or the TrinityTrolls can use it to wip up more anti Cas press. Is this because if you discredit Cas enough it will save Wakey If NM fails ?? Sad

O"dear NGB4C and his tattoos - ignore him we do.For what its worth if it was a serious he would still be banged up.Yes someone has a broken jaw but did the guy start it and could not finish it.Had Owen been on the bottle or just lemonade non of us know as we wernt in Ponty at the time.It will all come out in the wash and the club will/will not punish him accordingly simple as.

No need to be so touchy binks - this has got nothing to do with club colours in my eyes; drunken brawls in the street are a bad thing, regardless of who's involved.

Exactly until we know what has happened it stupid to be acting as judge and jury on here, wait for the facts to come out then comment.

Exactly right. Let the investigations take place and when all the facts are known then let the punishment fit the crime.

I accept we are all bored and this is the only news out there but as no one knows whats happened im a little sick of everyone passing judgement. I have heard too many versions of events from people involving half of West Yorkshire and humberside.

And yes whilst I admire your superior literacy skill I also know you cant help but play with a little stiring

At times yes, but not this time, I promise - stories like this are bad for the game as a whole and we could very much do without them.

Wow a load of bile we get posted on here now, so a 21 year old rugby player has been involved in a punch up in Pont town centre on Boxing day night, Jesus lets hang, draw and quarter him.

I think some of the people who post on these forums need a reality check, many rugby players like a drink, and I say rugby because its players from both codes, its not exactly a secret, and as anyone who has been around Ponte on a Boxing day night will tell you its like the wild west, there's more fights, broken glasses/windows etc than you will see any other time of the year, due in no small part to people being out on the lash since 11am.

You may not agree with drunken behaviour at 12am on a boxing day night, but there you have it, its the world we live in today.

And whilst I cant condone any Rugby League player for getting involved in this type of incident, if the players socialise by drinking alchohol in public places, especially during this type of occasion, the law of averages says an incident will happen involving a player at some point, and will without fail happen again.

Hells teath, some of the posters on here realy must be direct decendants from Moses, or else havent hung around in the same rugby league circles I have.

Slap on the wrist from the police, and from the club and warned to future conduct is the expected outcome from all sensible onlookers. RO sold to Hull FC and leaving the club in disgrace without a first choice fullback is pure fantasy, spouted by people with their own little axe to grind for all things Cas.

Yeah boxing day in the town i live in is bad as is castleford but tbh i think it happened xmas day night !!
I dont agree with drunken behaviour anyday mind !

I don't disagree that we should all wait for the evidence before passing judgement but unfortunately your arguement harms Owen more than helps.

Of course people go out and drink. Of course people get into fights, and of course people get hurt all the time.....but that doesn't make it right.
And this bit "[uif the players socialise by drinking alchohol in public places, especially during this type of occasion, the law of averages says an incident will happen involving a player at some point, and will without fail happen again[/u"..... is exactly the reason why there is a question mark.
He represents himself and his club and to a lesser extent the game. If he knows what you know about Ponte then he is knowingly going into that environment and risking the consequences you describe.
That isn't going to help him in his club disciplinary.

Don't think the RFL will see any player doing wrong representing the game to a lesser extent. It's their product that they are selling to Joe public and have a duty to protect it's image in anyway they see fit.

MASSIVE RAMBLE ALERT!

I don't go out that much locally and when I do I either take my family or I moderate my drinking BECUASE I have a position of responsibility and a reputation to uphold for myself, my employer and any of the people who work for me......
.... Becuase no matter what people say, you are an ambassador for your family, your employers and the answer "well I wasn't at work" or whatever doesnt wash, you are the sum total of the actions you take and the decisions you make.

I have been to a lot of pubs and had a lot of nights out in my time, to loads of rugby and football events in my colours and had beers and a laugh and quite a few scary trips watching Leeds and met many offices of the law. But in general, if you choose your actions carefully and you cosnider your actions and moderate your drinking, the majority of people, police and everyone respect that. So, I would conclude in my expereince in 99.999999999999% of instances, one can avoid a punch up if you want to; It is usually only your pride or your dumbass ego that means you have to prove your point.

I actually like Richard Owen, if he has done wrong I actually think he is a contrite individual who actually will do the right thing and similarly if during this club investigation he commits to community work and setting higher standards, I am sure he will.
People who really frustrate me are like Aspinwall where he can't seem to moderate his actions and is always a "victim of circumstances" or "not what it looks like" - thats crap, if you are a victim of your circumstances, change them - if it is not what it looks like, then consider how it might look and your record before you do it and grow up.

Disagree, there is a precident for convictions being in law not being matched by a sanction within the RFL I am afraid - I don't like it, I actually think that all sports people should resepect their reputations more and the role they play - but the RFL has very limited power in this instance as there are MANY examples of offences in law not resulting in sanction by the RFL, so there is no grounds I am afraid.