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| Quote ="sixtogo"Think you're probably going to have to explain the flooding issues Wheldon Road has after that and why it is that Tesco have pulled out.'"
Go on! - sixtogointheknow - You know you want to!
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| Quote ="bigalf"Quote ="sixtogo"Think you're probably going to have to explain the flooding issues Wheldon Road has after that and why it is that Tesco have pulled out.'"
Go on! - sixtogointheknow - You know you want to!'"
IA has mentioned it so if he wants to elaborate its up to him. Its not for me to say, some people claim to know better so i'll wait for them to find it out themselves and i'll stay out of it from now on. In fact i'd say there is only a 1 in 100 chance of me saying anymore.....
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| I came back to edit my post in light of a PM and polite request from Fully that I may have misunderstood the nature and tone of his PM's and was therefore more than happy to do so, but it appears that a mod has done this for him already.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Quote ="Fully"And the reason for this being on the Cas Forum is........'"
Because scabbytw@ put it on?
Fully, you really are starting to lose it!!
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You are a total waste of space. Get on your own site, bugger off from here, you banned me from your site, what a pathetic effort.
All you ever do is critise anyone other than a Pussycat fan who dares to post on the forums.
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"Quote ="kinleycat"Quote ="Fully"And the reason for this being on the Cas Forum is........'"
Because scabbytw@ put it on?
Fully, you really are starting to lose it!!
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You are a total waste of space. Get on your own site, bugger off from here, you banned me from your site, what a pathetic effort.
All you ever do is critise anyone other than a Pussycat fan who dares to post on the forums.'"
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| "When I learned that Tesco had pulled out of negotiations with Opus for WR, again, I thought carefully about it, but only for a short time!"
Quick question then IA - Why (in this mornings P & C Express) have Tesco announced their objection to the E House development? Are they looking at the 3rd site or is Wheldon Road back in favour for them?
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| Or they never actually pulled out in the first place?
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| Thats what I was thinking Fully.
Interesting reading in this morning's Cas & Ponte. Some good letters worth a look at. One in particular that points out how much EH would be unpopular to the Cas public if they were to be successful and it cost Tigers a place in SL.
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| Quote ="Tigerade""When I learned that Tesco had pulled out of negotiations with Opus for WR, again, I thought carefully about it, but only for a short time!"
Quick question then IA - Why (in this mornings P & C Express) have Tesco announced their objection to the E House development? Are they looking at the 3rd site or is Wheldon Road back in favour for them?'"
I understand that they are looking at two other site options in Castleford that they feel are going to be more cost effective to develop and hence the reason they are currently no longer looking at WR. The issue with Wheldon Road for them was the 1 in 100 year flood levels and their stipulation that a store on stilts would be their preferred option to make this site work because of the insurance risk that supermarkets like to carry to reduce their premiums. It is only a low flood risk, but when you have other site options in the area that you think are going to be cheaper to bring to fruition, then that would be their preferred option. Tesco have massively overspent on their new store development budgets for the last two years and as they look to maintain their shareholder dividends, by maintaining their overall profitability against increasing energy costs, they are looking to reduce store development costs.
It is possible that Tesco may find other issues with the other site options and return to WR, but this looks unlikely at the moment.
Tesco are objecting to EH because they don't want the site, and to be fair, neither does anyone else, so they would like to remove a potential obstacle blocking any other site that they might like to develop in the future.
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| I'll be surprised if Cas or Wakefield get their stadiums built, the way this country is going id be surprised to see anything built in the near future? I mean this government are knocking back new schools and hospitals so can't see them letting local councils spend millions on new stadiums, I believe we at Salford are very very lucky to have a new stadium to go into this year and had everything passed and build started before the condems came in to power, because if it were a year later I don't think we'd even have a stadium under construction right now.
I know it sounds negative but this is the way the country is going at the moment.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"I'll be surprised if Cas or Wakefield get their stadiums built, the way this country is going id be surprised to see anything built in the near future? I mean this government are knocking back new schools and hospitals so can't see them letting local councils spend millions on new stadiums, I believe we at Salford are very very lucky to have a new stadium to go into this year and had everything passed and build started before the condems came in to power, because if it were a year later I don't think we'd even have a stadium under construction right now.
I know it sounds negative but this is the way the country is going at the moment.'"
But neither are being paid for by the Council. They are merely offering both clubs land to the value of 2m to secure borrowing against
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Quote ="RED LEAGUE"I'll be surprised if Cas or Wakefield get their stadiums built, the way this country is going id be surprised to see anything built in the near future? I mean this government are knocking back new schools and hospitals so can't see them letting local councils spend millions on new stadiums, I believe we at Salford are very very lucky to have a new stadium to go into this year and had everything passed and build started before the condems came in to power, because if it were a year later I don't think we'd even have a stadium under construction right now.
I know it sounds negative but this is the way the country is going at the moment.'"
But neither are being paid for by the Council. They are merely offering both clubs land to the value of 2m to secure borrowing against'"
Its getting rather frustrating the amount of neutral fans who think we are getting the council to build the stadiums isnt it?
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| Quote ="pyeman"Its getting rather frustrating the amount of neutral fans who think we are getting the council to build the stadiums isnt it?'"
It certainly is; the volume of people who have an opinion on what both clubs should do without actually being in possession of any facts is exceptionally irritating.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Quote ="Tigerade""When I learned that Tesco had pulled out of negotiations with Opus for WR, again, I thought carefully about it, but only for a short time!"
Quick question then IA - Why (in this mornings P & C Express) have Tesco announced their objection to the E House development? Are they looking at the 3rd site or is Wheldon Road back in favour for them?'"
I understand that they are looking at two other site options in Castleford that they feel are going to be more cost effective to develop and hence the reason they are currently no longer looking at WR. The issue with Wheldon Road for them was the 1 in 100 year flood levels and their stipulation that a store on stilts would be their preferred option to make this site work because of the insurance risk that supermarkets like to carry to reduce their premiums. It is only a low flood risk, but when you have other site options in the area that you think are going to be cheaper to bring to fruition, then that would be their preferred option. Tesco have massively overspent on their new store development budgets for the last two years and as they look to maintain their shareholder dividends, by maintaining their overall profitability against increasing energy costs, they are looking to reduce store development costs.
It is possible that Tesco may find other issues with the other site options and return to WR, but this looks unlikely at the moment.
Tesco are objecting to EH because they don't want the site, and to be fair, neither does anyone else, so they would like to remove a potential obstacle blocking any other site that they might like to develop in the future.'"
You're not far off with the above
(btw, I work for Tesco so hear things before anyone starts saying I am just rumour mongering!)
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| No, he's very far off. But hey ho.
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| Don't you just love c@s fans who think they know everything but actually know jack.
Delusion over reality, don't you just love it.
Never mind, just thought I would try to enlighten the unenlightened! we shall see
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| Quote ="sidnee"Don't you just love c@s fans who think they know everything but actually know jack.
Delusion over reality, don't you just love it.
Never mind, just thought I would try to enlighten the unenlightened! we shall see
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A) You don't know me
B) You don't know what I know or who I know for that matter.
C) You claim delusion but yet you've not posted any facts other than that you work for Tesco. You could be a check-out operator for all I know.
D) Why shall we see? Surely if Tesco HAVE pulled out, there would be nothing to see?
E) You've not enlightened us on anything except you work for Tesco.
F) A quick look through your post history would suggest you're a Featherstone fan, perhaps one who hates Cas anyway. I would therefore suggest that your comments do nothing but try to raise a few bites, with no real substance. It is the off-season after all.
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| Quote ="Fully"Quote ="sidnee"Don't you just love c@s fans who think they know everything but actually know jack.
Delusion over reality, don't you just love it.
Never mind, just thought I would try to enlighten the unenlightened! we shall see
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A) You don't know me
B) You don't know what I know or who I know for that matter.
C) You claim delusion but yet you've not posted any facts other than that you work for Tesco. You could be a check-out operator for all I know.
D) Why shall we see? Surely if Tesco HAVE pulled out, there would be nothing to see?
E) You've not enlightened us on anything except you work for Tesco.
F) A quick look through your post history would suggest you're a Featherstone fan, perhaps one who hates Cas anyway. I would therefore suggest that your comments do nothing but try to raise a few bites, with no real substance. It is the off-season after all.'"
Only posted for info, but seeing as you have taken the typical c@s fan stance (confrontational)....
A) You don't know me
B) Correct
C) Yes , I work for Tesco, part of the SMT if you need to know.
D) Other sites are more suitable at a lot less cost.
E) See D , so yes, something to wait and see!
F) Yes, I am Fev fan but also a rugby fan who prefers to see rugby played in Fev, Cas, Wakey et al as opposed the the crazy 'expansion' areas like Toulouse and Crusaders, so you may see my comments were not meant in any malice, just what I had heard.
Btw, I live in C@s and a lot of my friends are C@s fans. I have had a similar conversation with them and they didn't meet my comments with the hostility / confrontation that you have.
I attend C@s matches with them when Fev are not playing and they attend Fev matches when C@s are not playing. Piece and love n all that, its the rugby we watch and wear our colours either way!!!!
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| The only way the general public will know how Tesco side in the short to medium term is:
a) In a press release from Castleford, presumably Mr Wright telling the fans that alternative arrangements have to be found, or even better have already been found, because Opus have been unable to secure a client (for the Wheldon Road site).
b) Opus & Tescos submit an application for another site, this you would imagine would prompt option a,
As Fully said, in terms of proof Tesco have overlooked Wheldon Road there won't be any, in the short to medium term anyway. Can you imagine the damage releasing a press statement letting the public know the Wheldon Road deal with Opus was dead in the water?
For the reason of lack of proof/evidence I would take more notice to what people such as Inflatable Armadillo say. He has no battle to fight with you & is privy to information not available to most. If things are the way he tells it I would imagine your hierachy will be working flat out to find another client, or even another potential developer if Opus are more concerned with Tesco, which in it's self is hardly unsurprising.
Things aren't as doom & gloom as some Wakefield fans would have you believe, you hold a decent hand in terms of owning your ground & having a decent amount of land to go with it. That will see you through to your goal in the end, it's just about timing & that's down to the pressure the RFL place on development.
Personally I'm more concerned with what we're doing 2 junctions down the motorway, but good luck in your ventures with the move.
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| After reading Thursdays Cas n Ponti it seems clear to me that Tescos are not involved with the Opus/WR project. The question is who is, if anyone?
It seems convenient that the planning application is due to go in after the announcement on the Newmarket PI results is known. Come to think of if, over the last few years a lot of Glasshoughton related events seem to coincide with what ever is happening at Newmarket. Call me a cynic but I can’t help but think the events are related!
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| Quote ="deeHell"Call me a cynic'"
tbh, the word that enters my mind when I read one of you posts on this board is more nordic in origin.
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| Quote ="deeHell"After reading Thursdays Cas n Ponti it seems clear to me that Tescos are not involved with the Opus/WR project. The question is who is, if anyone?
It seems convenient that the planning application is due to go in after the announcement on the Newmarket PI results is known. Come to think of if, over the last few years a lot of Glasshoughton related events seem to coincide with what ever is happening at Newmarket. Call me a cynic but I can’t help but think the events are related!'"
Then you would also be wrong. The end date has nothing to do with Newmarket (as much as you seem to think it always is).
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| Quote ="smoking monkey"If my capper mates are anything to go by there is no other kind....but I prefer that to the indifference they feel towards Wakeyicon_wink.gif'"
Indeed.
And the fact that instead of writing Cas (bar the one time) he always changes it to 'C@s'; I know it technically isn't derogatory but it's almost as bad as the Fev fans who write 'C*s'. Bitter lot down t'road.
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| Quote ="TrinitarianWF2"The only way the general public will know how Tesco side in the short to medium term is:
a) In a press release from Castleford, presumably Mr Wright telling the fans that alternative arrangements have to be found, or even better have already been found, because Opus have been unable to secure a client (for the Wheldon Road site).
b) Opus & Tescos submit an application for another site, this you would imagine would prompt option a,
As Fully said, in terms of proof Tesco have overlooked Wheldon Road there won't be any, in the short to medium term anyway. Can you imagine the damage releasing a press statement letting the public know the Wheldon Road deal with Opus was dead in the water?
For the reason of lack of proof/evidence I would take more notice to what people such as Inflatable Armadillo say. He has no battle to fight with you & is privy to information not available to most. If things are the way he tells it I would imagine your hierachy will be working flat out to find another client, or even another potential developer if Opus are more concerned with Tesco, which in it's self is hardly unsurprising.
Things aren't as doom & gloom as some Wakefield fans would have you believe, you hold a decent hand in terms of owning your ground & having a decent amount of land to go with it. That will see you through to your goal in the end, it's just about timing & that's down to the pressure the RFL place on development.
Personally I'm more concerned with what we're doing 2 junctions down the motorway, but good luck in your ventures with the move.'"
Why would Opus submit an application for another site having already spent money on WR in terms of various plans and surveys etc?
RW wouldn't be saying anything regarding this. All the press releases come from Opus and there ARE, despite what people think, other supermarkets also wanting to pursue WR. This alone is just one of the many reasons why Tesco will not give up the site as much as I_A and other Wakey fans 'claim' to think. I_A does work in the industry but his comments seem very much on conjecture and rumour. He has no battle to grind with Cas but seems only to post negative information on here and doesn't seem, from a Cas perspective at least, wholly supportive of any plans for Cas as much as he says differently. That is not necessarily my view but that is why some people take offence to him.
And your final comments re: WR and the stadium is correct; there is absolutely no way that GH will not be built - we have full PP and we just need to sell our major asset to ensure that is the case. I have absolutely no worries, however, that Opus (and Tesco) will not see this to the very end.
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