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| Quote ="gingerspice"Think Joe will fit in very well at Hull there will be a few drinking partners there for him Tansey will be loving it, and he will get to go in the famous Weir Bar were the FC players are banned from, Joe was an awesome player a few years ago, but last season was no were to be seen, cant see him been any beta at Fc to be honest, rate Matterson as a coach much more than Agar, us Robins will now have to listen yet again about what them across the river are going to win yet again next season....... oh joy cant wait'"
Have a word with yourself soft lad.
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| Can't believe any Cas fan has the audacity to be happy with this news considering the relentless hype regarding the genius of this lad on here for the past years.
That said it's shocking practice from Hull who actually had him on their books as a junior. Doesn't say a great deal for their youth system to let him go for nowt and then pay big bucks to get him back.
Westerman is an odd one, left Hull on a whim, signed for Wakey then back tracked on his promise and has now ditched Cas - so probably not the kind of individual you would want in a TEAM.
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| Great signing for us and a decent bit of business for your club, given what must have been a very awkward situation. If he's half the success that big Willie has been, he'll be brilliant.
I, and many many other Hull fans, genuinely hope that you sort out your new ground, secure your new franchise and go on to be a successful club !!!
I'm sure that you're all aware that Cas is very much considered to be the "second club" of many of us.
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| Quote ="vastman"Can't believe any Cas fan has the audacity to be happy with this news considering the relentless hype regarding the genius of this lad on here for the past years.
That said it's shocking practice from Hull who actually had him on their books as a junior. Doesn't say a great deal for their youth system to let him go for nowt and then pay big bucks to get him back.
Westerman is an odd one, left Hull on a whim, signed for Wakey then back tracked on his promise and has now ditched Cas - so probably not the kind of individual you would want in a TEAM.'"
Can beleive you've crawled back out of that hole either
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Think Joe will fit in very well at Hull there will be a few drinking partners there for him Tansey will be loving it, and he will get to go in the famous Weir Bar were the FC players are banned from, Joe was an awesome player a few years ago, but last season was no were to be seen, cant see him been any beta at Fc to be honest, rate Matterson as a coach much more than Agar, us Robins will now have to listen yet again about what them across the river are going to win yet again next season....... oh joy cant wait'"
Yeah, at 20 his best years are definitely behind him. Typical rovers fan.
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| Quote ="vastman"Can't believe any Cas fan has the audacity to be happy with this news considering the relentless hype regarding the genius of this lad on here for the past years.
That said it's shocking practice from Hull who actually had him on their books as a junior. Doesn't say a great deal for their youth system to let him go for nowt and then pay big bucks to get him back.
Westerman is an odd one, left Hull on a whim, signed for Wakey then back tracked on his promise and has now ditched Cas - so probably not the kind of individual you would want in a TEAM.'"
After making a profit in 2009 (including paying our tax bill on time without the use of a begging bowl) and now cashing in on Westerman, the books should look far more healthier than yours.
Wow, Cas have assets (land and a ground without getting the begging bowl out and pointing it in the direction os the council) and cash in the bank. Wakefield have..... a well used begging bowl. Maybe Keith Senior could get you a few quid for it on ebay.
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| From reading what has been said, it looks like it has been the best situation for both parties as possible. By the sounds of it, Westy wanted to leave Cas, so to sell the lad 1 year previous of him OOC for such a big sum is good bussiness for you too.
For the record, hope everything gets sorted for you lot, got a lot of time for Cas.
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| Er robbo4 I'm not a bloke u need to have a word wat kind of a bloke wud name himself Ginger spice mmm
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Er robbo4 I'm not a bloke u need to have a word wat kind of a bloke wud name himself Ginger spice mmm'" The kind who would support Hull KR.
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| Quote ="who needs flankers?"After making a profit in 2009 (including paying our tax bill on time without the use of a begging bowl) and now cashing in on Westerman, the books should look far more healthier than yours.
Wow, Cas have assets (land and a ground without getting the begging bowl out and pointing it in the direction os the council) and cash in the bank. Wakefield have..... a well used begging bowl. Maybe Keith Senior could get you a few quid for it on ebay.'"
You have not paid your tax bill yet, don't be a fool.
Please allude to us where Wakefields stadium plan differs from you're own.
Both will sell (or have in our case) their ground as part funding or did you casually forget that we to have a land asset, and a bit more valuable than yours as well .
Both are in cahoots with a developer who will provide the land and some funding.
Both developments are guaranteed by the Council with an alternate land security deal, as announced in the press earlier this year.
Both clubs are now on exactly the same footing, so if we have a begging bowl it's identical to yours.
Are you really as stupid as your post suggest or have you been living on the moon
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| Absolutely gutted. Another young talent down the drain. Another product of our academy picked over by one of the 'big' clubs. Really, it gives me great hope for the future.
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| Quote ="Speedy"Can beleive you've crawled back out of that poop hole either'"
How mature
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| This is not the thread for a Vastman vs the world type slanging match. Could we not let it get to that please? Go somewhere else, christ sake.
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| ((((zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzipppppppppp)))))))))))))
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| Quote ="vastman"How mature
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But apt, where have you been for the months prior to the Wakefield outline planning permission anyway? We've all missed your insightful analysis.
As for Westerman, it's undeniable that his talent has stagnated at Cas. Three years being a leading star at such a tender age will do that. It's probably best for him to develop his career at a different club rather than cruise comfortably at Cas. Everyone requires a new challenge at some point, and he still has the potential to be a star, and still has two young player of the year awards to his name.
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| I'm sad to see joe leave but it was clear he was going to be gone after this season anyway, so we may as well get a fee for him, especially if it means we can put pp in immediatly as we have no time to waste. I'm not sure our young payers are 'being driven away' shenton played for 7 seasons for us before leaving and joe did 4, even the biggest clubs can lose there home grown players.
Hopefully john davies can now step into his boots as imo he has the potential to be a fantastic loose forward.
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| Quote ="BD"Absolutely gutted. Another young talent down the drain. Another product of our academy picked over by one of the 'big' clubs. Really, it gives me great hope for the future.
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Whilst I am gutted that another of our International Players has gone we have done it for the right reasons, The player wanted away on his toes, The club wanted(not needed) the cash and the supporters want a new stadium.
Maybe the only question to ask is why did he want to leave and what can be done/changed to keep the likes of Thompson, Walker Milner Thompson C and Brierly?
Maybe in two years time when we are sat at out brand new Amber Bowl stadium watching these lads we will say Joe Who??
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| Quote ="Fearless' Headguard"Oh yes, the Paul Cooke school of RL professionalism is still going strong in Hull isn't it?
Gutted but it sounds like it may be for the best really...we need the cash and it seems that this is the best time for both him and the club to go. I do worry about the lack of ambition that Cas seem to have on the field with losing home grown players, it some ways it looks like we've decided we're not going to get a franchise so have decided to pull back for the next 3/4 years in order to get the stadium sorted and then start rebuilding. Just hope our crowds can be as patient.'"
The point i was making Hull are now very professional on and off the field which includes very strong player discipline.If any player steps out of line for any reason the club have shown that they come down on them like a ton of bricks.If Joe wants to get to the top then he will have to be a model professional.I guess he has plenty to prove.
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| Quote ="vastman"You have not paid your tax bill yet, don't be a fool.
Please allude to us where Wakefields stadium plan differs from you're own.
Both will sell (or have in our case) their ground as part funding or did you casually forget that we to have a land asset, and a bit more valuable than yours as well .
Both are in cahoots with a developer who will provide the land and some funding.
Both developments are guaranteed by the Council with an alternate land security deal, as announced in the press earlier this year.
Both clubs are now on exactly the same footing, so if we have a begging bowl it's identical to yours.
Are you really as stupid as your post suggest or have you been living on the moon
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Welcome Back - Not!
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| We have sold one of our best and most promising players, I dont understand why people think its ok. Surely the drinking culture at the club is down to short comings in the coaching and management. I sincerely hope we bring in some one who is a bloody world beater. But, knowing Cas we wont even sign anyone. RW will say we will sign someone as the season goes on. Then it will never happen. Whos next, Rangi?
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."We have sold one of our best and most promising players, I dont understand why people think its ok. Surely the drinking culture at the club is down to short comings in the coaching and management. I sincerely hope we bring in some one who is a bloody world beater. But, knowing Cas we wont even sign anyone. RW will say we will sign someone as the season goes on. Then it will never happen. Whos next, Rangi?'"
I dont think anyone is happy about it but would you prefer him to leave at then end of next season for free?
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| We seem to be losing our young talent at an alarming rate. Huby is the only one who's really stayed with us, and he's not a world beater is he? We seem to be the destination for bringing players through, allowed them to be pawned off, and then ultimately taking in all the players that no-one else wants.
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| Quote ="BD"We seem to be losing our young talent at an alarming rate. Huby is the only one who's really stayed with us, and he's not a world beater is he? We seem to be the destination for bringing players through, allowed them to be pawned off, and then ultimately taking in all the players that no-one else wants.'"
Huby has been twice the player Westy has this last season, I don't find it worrying about Joe leaving, it makes good sense cashing in whilst we can as long as we get a replacement who can do as good if not an even better job.
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| Quote ="vastman"You have not paid your tax bill yet, don't be a fool.
Please allude to us where Wakefields stadium plan differs from you're own.
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Both are in cahoots with a developer who will provide the land and some funding.
Both developments are guaranteed by the Council with an alternate land security deal, as announced in the press earlier this year.
Both clubs are now on exactly the same footing, so if we have a begging bowl it's identical to yours.
Are you really as stupid as your post suggest or have you been living on the moon
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The difference is we have OTHER assets in ADDITION Maybe I should take a photo of the sign at your ground saying "this stadium is owned by WMC"
come back when you can write something worth reading.
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| This thread is for discussion relating to Joe Westerman. All other discussion points should be raised in the appropriate threads. I am NOT going to clean these threads up, if they go too far, I'll just lock them, along with any new ones that are started.
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