I totally agree mate and what a crock of the RFL have conjured up with this licensing mullarkey, If Wakey dont want to share,then I wish them luck in getting what they want.

After sunday and the other derby days , i would like to know what the RFL want to replace these passionate days with, it looks like it could be an exciting battle between Toulouse and the quins with 1500 in attendance and the atmosphere of a closed library in a sterile flat pac stadium.

Its not your club thats doomed , its the fecking game that doomed if these clowns get their way

O/T did you work at Anglers crofton any time ?

well they might as well merge widnes as well with saints

Lets get on with building at GH and if Wakey had anything about them they could move in with us until the money world gets some where back to normal then they can do 1 and get there own ground sorted..keeping both teams in super league should be are main reason to share. Dont need ooh i wont go there cos its cas just get on until you get some where u can build ur own....

I think you may have a problem with it then old lad!

Just what I said about Newmarket - the money is there, we just need the council to stop playing politics with planning permission. As it's not Trin's stadium, Cas can tag along until their money is sorted out and their own stadium built without feeling that they are playing in their rivals stadium.

What it boils down to is we need PP, but not more money, you need the money that WMDC ain't got UNLESS they go back on their promise to Trin. Neither of us can afford to wait, but if Box is playing poker with Trinity he needs to be careful, cos the mood amongst Wakey fans is to call his bluff and re-locate to Barnsley (if they'll have us) rather than play in Cas Tigers stadium. If Wakey move to Cas we're doomed, 'cos the units will get built anyway just a year or two later and without the need to 'chuck in' a stadium as a sweetener. If Cas shack up with Wakey for a year or two there's every chance your lack of money will sort itself out - plus it'll give you time to sort out the compulsory purchase you desparately need for the access routes.

So what you are saying is that WMDC have decided that you will get outline planning but it is being held up by certain members of the council in collaboration with the planning officers to further the GH stadium - If I wre you I would get straight onto the local goverment ombudsman !!

what are we exactly compulsary purchasing ??? and i think its leeds city council thats got your number not mr box or are you that stupid you cant see that??

The compulsory purchase is for a few square metre's of grassed area's in front of B&Q, Pizza Hut, Mc Don's and the Ford Showroom to enable the new gyratory road system to be constructed.

im really trying but where is there grass in front of those places and i thought the roads were sorted coming from jct 31 ?? please please dont tell me when the road works are done there is more to come

Yes there are more alterations to colorado way, the works now are nothing to do with the scheme they are just to re-constuct the road surfaces.

Bit unnecessary, don't you think

Wakefield planning issues have got bugger all to do with Leeds, and any objections they raise will be dealt with by the planning process. When all said and done, Leeds are just a bit narked that Wakey have beaten them to it, cos IF we get permission it probably snookers any chance Leeds have for their side later on.

And as for the compulsory purchase - if I owned any of that land I'd be offering it to the developers at market rates (and then some

) 'cos it must be pretty valuable to the developers - it stops you in your tracks if you don't get it. And if they tried to compulsorarily purchase it at any less than what was a good price I'd be fighting it through the courts.

FWIW, me being a nasty suspicious sod, I think WMDC are playing silly buggers so that they don't have to put any money into either scheme, and they'll blame it on Cas and Wakey pig-headedness!!

Decision was due a week or two ago, but was put back 'til September by WMDC, then Box put his oar in in the Wakey Express saying we should share or there's no money for anyone - sounds like politics to me!

You keep saying WMDC put the application back, Have you read the submissions by the highways agency and others? They are the reasons behind the defferal, without the highways and other statutory bodies issues being seen to they wont even consider it

Someone put the decision back, and that could only be the planners or the applicants - I heard it was the planners, but like everything else on here that is just hearsay. I'm not really up on planning matters - does your full permission rely on you getting your highway matters sorted out (the grassy knoll!) before your outline permission expires?

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Quote ="wakeyrule"This bit? maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=outlet& ... 03259&z=19 £2,000,000 please '" Unfortunately, that's not the way that compulsory purchase works.

Quote ="wakeyrule"This bit? maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=outlet& ... 03259&z=19 £2,000,000 please '" Unfortunately, that's not the way that compulsory purchase works.

Quote ="wakeyrule"This bit? maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=outlet& ... 03259&z=19 £2,000,000 please '" Close but no medal. The bit below where there are two roads. They are going to be joined up as one road to the roundabout allowing direct access to the stadium.

Quote ="wakeyrule"This bit? maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=outlet& ... 03259&z=19 £2,000,000 please '" Close but no medal. The bit below where there are two roads. They are going to be joined up as one road to the roundabout allowing direct access to the stadium.

Oh, that bit!

£3,000,000 please!

You mean fortunately - believe it or not I want you to get your stadium and us to get ours (wishful thinking, I know). Actually, I'll be sorry to see WR go, I love that type of stadium - not really suitable for the la-di-da RFL nobeds though, is it.

I honestly think that the heart and soul of RL is being ripped apart by soul-less hyenas with fake tans interested only in fake plastic stadia filled with 'middle class' plastic fans watching plastic rugby played by plastic participants interested more in their bank balance than the sheer pride of playing for their team. The futures bright, the futures plastic!! Not the kinf of future I want to look forward to, TBH. Good night!

I mean unfortunately. It means that "they" can get "their" hands on what "I" have managed to scrape together whenever "they" like at whatever price "they" deem suitable provided that "they" can demonstrate that it's in "the public interest". Doesn't really matter that in this case it could be working in "my" favour.

Depends on how 'they' define market value. The fact that 'they' need it for their multi-million pound stadium surely MUST increase it's market value, and that should be taken into account when fixing a price.

I'd agree with your sentiments if it was someones house or garden, but in this case there is surely no sentimental value to the land?

There's a difference? It's the principle I'm talking about, here.

Can't let luddites and NIMBYs stand in the way of progress. As long as it's fair and for the greater good - trouble is you have to rely on politicians to make that call!

Nice attempt at a windup.

However, this thread isn't about my personal feelings on the wider issues of compulsory purchase. Unfortunately it was and unfortunately it stays, IMHO. Maybe we can thrash this one out over a pint sometime, but this message board isn't the place as I don't think it's of much relevance to Cas Tigers and/or the new stadium.

I agree Leeds shouldn't be able to scupper your ground! unfortunately the "planning process" will become a whole lot longer if/when they do oppose the scheme, do you really think central government is gonna just give planning for a stadium on green belt to a council when they already have planning for a stadium on the regions most visited non paying attraction?