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| The OPer is throwing an absolute first class tantrum.
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| Quote ="tigerman10"so which part of that is our problem and which part of that has anything to do with us goundsharing. i have read your comments on the wakey page makeing us out to be some small town neighbours who need their big city rivals to survive, but the thing is we are not going around begging people to ground share with us. and as for wakefield getting nothing (now i could be wrong here and this may not have council funding so i appologise in advance if i am) but what about the hepworth museum, the development behind the trainstation, the development on jacobswell lane, the work in the bullring, and all the upgrading work that has been done on westgate, some of that must have had council funding.'"
I may be wrong but didn't wakey sell there ground to the council therefore they've already had help/money.
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| Belle Vue has been sold, but not to the council. I believe it was to a housing developer called Cala Homes, or something similar. We have had half this money paid up front (and presumably already spent it on general operating costs, tax arrears, who the hell knows what....) I don't think money is the most immediate problem for us - we have no chance of getting any planning decision, even outline, before the next SL licence applications are submitted in November this year - the whole project just keeps getting taken off the council planning meeting agendas month after month - which says to me that something is not squared away. Without planning permission I do not believe the RFL will grant us another licence - I know I wouldn't take the club at it's promise to get a stadium sorted again. Our regular club apologists/know-alls/bullsh*tters keep saying all is well and this delay is simply in order to get all the details just right, but very many on our board now have less and less faith that the stadium will ever materialise. There is also an air of secrecy around the whole project, but no-one can tell us why. However, this criticism cannot be uttered on the Wakefield board without a barrage of withering replies and a lambasting for being negative.
The ground share has therefore become a possible lifeline for Wakefield in many peoples eyes. But only if it's at Newmarket, mind. You know, the place where there is no prospect of even outline planning permission for the foreseeable future. Basically, I do not think the people involved are capable or competent enough to deliver a project of this scale. I wish Cas nothing but success with their own stadium plans.
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| Wonder what the news on glasshoughton will be soon?
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| Quote ="duke street 10"Wonder what the news on glasshoughton will be soon?'"
=#8040FFProbably architects designs and ready to submit for full planning permission
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"
Wakey
No pool, every amateur club is a disgrace in terms of club house and facilities, my club included, no funding for anything, a total and utter disgrace.
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I personally find that comment very offensive, ive played at Crigglestone for 10 years and there are countless people who work really hard up there to keep the club going. The facilities up there are second to non.
The facilities for alot of the amature clubs in wakefield are not bad at all, Croftons got brill facitlites, as have Walton, Stanley, Sharlston.
Normanton, Westgate and Eastmoor have got decent facilities and there are people who work endlessly to keep the clubs up to scratch, i think you are doing them a great injustice!!
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8040FFProbably architects designs and ready to submit for full planning permission'"
i would love to think that was going to be the case but the thing that makes me think its not is that i have no idea where the club is going to get the 180K + from to put in for the full planing permission. i think it is more likely to be the case that RW will show us 3 possible designes that we will choose from to put in for PP, so more delays i think will be the order of the day. but i hope i am wrong and you are right.
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| Can't see why we don't knock our heads together and share a ground at the neutral location which is Newmarket.
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"Can't see why we don't knock our heads together and share a ground at the neutral location which is Newmarket.'"
What happening with Newmarket, Is it going to the secretary of state ?
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| Quote ="Speedy"What happening with Newmarket, Is it going to the secretary of state ?'"
Been put back until September for Planning meeting - just like Cas all over again.
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| Quote ="Fully"Been put back until September for Planning meeting - just like Cas all over again.'"
I could be wrong here and im sure the polecats will pounce, but if it has to go to a public enquiry, then the secretary of state has to be involved, and rarely does planning permission be given, It may allow for sports purposes the building of a stadium, depending on many factors, but i doubt anything else. [url=http://www.wakefieldccg.co.uk/green-belt.htmlIm sure the Nimby's are banging their drums as we speak[/url, so its not going to be plain sailing. The highways Agency arent happy yet either " [url=http://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/lg/GFPlanningDocuments.page?org.apache.shale.dialog.DIALOG_NAME=gfplanningsearch&Param=lg.Planning&viewdocs=true&SDescription=10/00225/OUTintresting Reading, If you can be Arsed[/url Especially from Leeds Council in section 5 Oooer the dreaded otters section 8 statutory responses Ecology
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"Can't see why we don't knock our heads together and share a ground at the neutral location which is Newmarket.'"
because its in castleford best interest to play in glasshoughton.
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| Quote ="pyeman"because its in castleford best interest to play in glasshoughton.'"
Because it's the best location - any club would be stupid to reject that.
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| Quote ="Fully"Because it's the best location - any club would be stupid to reject that.'"
Certainly, would have the best transport links of any rl stadium in the country, with all the nearby entertainment it will be the biggest draw for families and it already had thousands of free car parking spaces.
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| Quote ="Chairman Miaow"...sensible post...'"
That's the most sensible and realistic post I've seen on this subject for yonks.
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| I'd like to see RW give a quick 5 minute update over the tannoy at each home game, or perhaps the first game of each calendar month (not that have many remaining!). In which he should clearly state the current status of the project, the key stages to be achieved and the dates by which these need to be achieved.
Not everbody has access to the internet and not everybody can 'log on' for his blogs, and his blogs which themselves are too few and far between. By announcing these matters before the game, he has the right audience in attendance, as it is the fans who need to know what is, or isn't happening (just be honest with us). His updates can then be reported on his blog and in the press etc.
The longer this drags on, the more scepticle we all become. As time and deadlines are passing us by we all increasingly doubt if it will be done in time, how it will be done and perhaps 'if' it will ever be done.
If it is that we will share with Wakey, so be it! Just the ground....but with two separate team identities.
I appeal if anyone on the forum has access to members of the board, or representatives of the supporters club please propose this on behalf of the fans.
If RW is not willing to do this, then we again have to ask the reason why???.....in which case it does nothing improve our trust of the guy, in securing our superleague future!!
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| Quote ="pyeman"Certainly, would have the best transport links of any rl stadium in the country, with all the nearby entertainment it will be the biggest draw for families and it already had thousands of free car parking spaces.'"
Traffic will be a nightmare and will cripple several large businesses on potentially their busiest day. I'm not sure if companies like Xscape, Area 51 shopping village and B&Q etc back the plans but hypothetically speaking if both clubs aren't moving fast enough for a franchise then ignoring a (possibly temp as well) ground share which would secure SL spots is a no-brainer.
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| If 'newgroundb4cas' is worried that his username is going to be shown up as nonsense and wants a ground share on a border, may I suggest [url=http://www.selkirkrfc.com/these people[/url
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Would you settle for a ground share on the border of Wakey and Cas? Im beggining to sway that way
we need to cut our pride and give it a go else we are both out! I am sure if the Milan giants can share we can! We are both going to be out end of. Forget Fetherstone they are a National League club and just a small town. Im not a fan who totally hates Cas I find great excitement when we play you and Cas away is certainly a match I look out for more than any other fixture Salford/Quins at home its just boring and would be sad to see you go. We need to stay in SL together build a ground on the border with bars/good facilities and share it. Common sense needs to prevail time is getting on and we are both going to be out on our ear if we don't get this sorted.'"
Forget the small national league club that is Featherstone you say, well for a small club we have won the major honours as you have and always compared favourably with crowds when in the same division, , also to say we havent had 10/12 million pounds sky money you have our ground blinds yours and its ours. Well heres my prediction for 3 years down the line, Wakey kicked out of super league and as they have no ground go bust, restart again in NL1, have to rent the 5 million refurbished post office road, and play in front of less than 1k and Rovers benefit from rent and bar takings. Im telling you that is your future so forget about us now and come begging in a few years
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| Quote ="the_grobs"I'd like to see RW give a quick 5 minute update over the tannoy at each home game, or perhaps the first game of each calendar month (not that have many remaining!). In which he should clearly state the current status of the project, the key stages to be achieved and the dates by which these need to be achieved.
Not everbody has access to the internet and not everybody can 'log on' for his blogs, and his blogs which themselves are too few and far between. By announcing these matters before the game, he has the right audience in attendance, as it is the fans who need to know what is, or isn't happening (just be honest with us). His updates can then be reported on his blog and in the press etc.
The longer this drags on, the more scepticle we all become. As time and deadlines are passing us by we all increasingly doubt if it will be done in time, how it will be done and perhaps 'if' it will ever be done.
If it is that we will share with Wakey, so be it! Just the ground....but with two separate team identities.
I appeal if anyone on the forum has access to members of the board, or representatives of the supporters club please propose this on behalf of the fans.
If RW is not willing to do this, then we again have to ask the reason why???.....in which case it does nothing improve our trust of the guy, in securing our superleague future!!'"
Or just buy a programme - he often gives titbits of information in there? Why don't you email him?
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"Traffic will be a nightmare and will cripple several large businesses on potentially their busiest day. I'm not sure if companies like Xscape, Area 51 shopping village and B&Q etc back the plans but hypothetically speaking if both clubs aren't moving fast enough for a franchise then ignoring a (possibly temp as well) ground share which would secure SL spots is a no-brainer.'"
Not really because there's going to be a road that links up to the new link road at the bottom of Cutsyke, so traffic can be alleviated two ways. As for Xscape/J32 not backing it, I'm pretty sure they would. Not only would it stimulate the number of people drinking/visiting in these places, the fact they get such custom will surely drive up rental prices for shops/spaces in there thus improving their own profitability.
Incidentally, Waystone have recently got outline planning permission for housing on the land behind Flass Lane in Cutsyke too.
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| Quote ="rovers" Well heres my prediction for 3 years down the line, Wakey kicked out of super league and '"
Why 3 years? Why not next year?
As for your last retort, I sincerely hope that does not come to pass. Super League needs both Wakefield and Castleford in strong stadia, producing good young talent and becoming stronger financial entities. If Featherstone continue their progression, there's no reason why all three couldn't be Super League outfits in the future.
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| Quote ="the_grobs"I'd like to see RW give a quick 5 minute update over the tannoy at each home game, or perhaps the first game of each calendar month (not that have many remaining!). In which he should clearly state the current status of the project, the key stages to be achieved and the dates by which these need to be achieved.
Not everbody has access to the internet and not everybody can 'log on' for his blogs, and his blogs which themselves are too few and far between. By announcing these matters before the game, he has the right audience in attendance, as it is the fans who need to know what is, or isn't happening (just be honest with us). His updates can then be reported on his blog and in the press etc.
The longer this drags on, the more scepticle we all become. As time and deadlines are passing us by we all increasingly doubt if it will be done in time, how it will be done and perhaps 'if' it will ever be done.
If it is that we will share with Wakey, so be it! Just the ground....but with two separate team identities.
I appeal if anyone on the forum has access to members of the board, or representatives of the supporters club please propose this on behalf of the fans.
If RW is not willing to do this, then we again have to ask the reason why???.....in which case it does nothing improve our trust of the guy, in securing our superleague future!!'"
I notice he hasn't written a blog for a long while...
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"Traffic will be a nightmare and will cripple several large businesses on potentially their busiest day. I'm not sure if companies like Xscape, Area 51 shopping village and B&Q etc back the plans but hypothetically speaking if both clubs aren't moving fast enough for a franchise then ignoring a (possibly temp as well) ground share which would secure SL spots is a no-brainer.'"
Why would it be? theres going to be two ways to get to glasshoughton with the new cutsyke road, most cas fans (who make up the majority of the crowd) can walk or do a short hop in a taxi, some fans will arrive by train and because theres more to do than any other rl ground many people will arrive earlier so the influx of people will be staggered.
What businesses will be crippled and why would sunday be there busiest day?
If you want to temporarily groundshare at glasshoughton thats upto you.
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"Traffic will be a nightmare and will cripple several large businesses on potentially their busiest day. I'm not sure if companies like Xscape, Area 51 shopping village and B&Q etc back the plans but hypothetically speaking if both clubs aren't moving fast enough for a franchise then ignoring a (possibly temp as well) ground share which would secure SL spots is a no-brainer.'"
You obviously have no idea of the plans for Glasshougton. Take some time to look at them before you make yourself look as silly as NGB4C
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