Do you watch Owen every week? No, thought not. Your post wreaks of something, but its not avaerage!

Do you watch Mathers every week?

No, thought not.

Your post simply wreaks of one-eyed, tambourine bashing syndrome. And it is average.

Strangely enough, given Sky's current obsession with Warrington, we do get to see him most weeks, he was distinctly average (or just below) against Leeds on his last outing.

Indeed it was that one performance that grants you the insight to remark on his lengthy SL career. Not withstanding said ability that led an NRL club to entice him to a League significantly better than ours.

Err, I want us to sign Mathers!

No, not just the one, quite a few in his career, let's just brush his career at Wigan under the carpet eh? If he is that fantastic, why are Warrington replacing him?

Quite a few in his career? Privvy to his Leeds appearances too were you? No, thought not.

Simple fact is Mathers would be a strong addition to anyone's squad, least of all a decidedly poor Cas team. It's really that simple.

Owen is a far better fullback, it really is that simple.

...is the wrong answer.

Only if you dont know much about rugby league. Mathers hasnt been any good since leeds, his best form has been at wire where he hasnt been terrible like he was at wigan.

"How to contradict yourself 3 times in 2 sentences." Signed copies available from Pyeman

Yout wit is only matched by your ignorance, your mother must be so proud.

You could of course take the lowest common denominator and use the Mother insults to mask over your inability to sustain any kind of engaging debate.

Fool.

Maybe when you show any evidence of being able to get involved in a debate rather than stating your opinion and insulting those who dont agree with it?

Your concept of irony is quite outstanding.

Still not interested in any sort of rugby debate i see?

Anyway its a nice day outside why dont you enjoy it before the school holidays are over?

And that kind of pseudo comedic response is precisely the reason that your musings on this topic remain both incorrect and spurious at best.

I should leave the Billy Pearce material for those who can carry it off sunshine.

Very droll, still not doing anything to convince anyone on here your anything other than an idiot though.

Because you haven't the intellect to engage in debate or sustain your point as to why you think an 18 year old with a broken leg and no track record is better than a Grand Final winning, England international, (who scored in the World Club Challenge having had a top class game against Canterbury Bulldogs) former NRL player, who was deemed good enough to replace a still excellent Gary Connolly in '04 with admirers including Tony Smith, Brian Noble and seemingly your current coach for his recent form and ability.

But let's not let facts get in the way of your spurious offerings. Feel free to continue with your working men's club comedy and 1970's insults.

Why the petty arguments.

Mathers is not the player he was at Leeds, certainly not consistently as he was at Leeds. But he is a damn site better player than most you already have.

Owen is indeed a class fullback, but you have no guarantees that he will be the same player when he returns. Indeed the reason Mathers is not the same player he was at Leeds is that he's had two knee reconstructions since then, and only this season is now starting to recover fully from it.

Mathers is far better than the likes of McGoldrick, Evans, Wainwright, Dixon. And how many players have you played at scrumhalf this year? I bet Mathers would be better than all of them in that role.

Precisely my point. Mathers of any era offers a superior option to the current Tigers backline.

Your the one who has ben displaying a lack of intellect.

Your also wrong about owens age, he's 20, why him having a broken leg at this time should make any differance to his qaulity is beyond me, seen long is injured at the moment is chris thorman suddenly a better half back. how is richard owen umproven he's played proffesional rl from a young age, always looked class, took the step up to sl in his stride whilst being safer under the high ball than mathers, faster than mathers, scoring more tries than mathers and with a better disciplinary record than mathers. He's been in a side that won a trophy so what? ricky bibey must be a class act then. he played in the nrl, so have chris feather and chris thorman and they arent good enough to play in sl anymore. if tony smith thought he was that good why is he replacing him? why isnt noble making a move to take him to wrexham? and if terry materson does rate him and currently there is no evidence this is true to my knowledge, that just proves that he is considered to be as good as ryan clayton. If he's so highly rated by coaches how come his last 3 coaches have got rid of him?

Whilst you didnt quite stop acting like a child, at least you attempted some form of debate, well done, even it was a load of rubbish, at least your trying.

Apparantly he's signed for St Helens, along with Shenton.

proof ?

Not completely sure but I think Warrington are replacing him with Brett Hodgson because of his goalkicking as well as him being a better player also.