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| =#0000FF<inappropriate language removed - no need> Bonzo
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| Maybe you should have shared that opinion to their face. =#0040FF[No need for insults - Bonzo
To be fair most of the Cas fans I spoke to were gracious in defeat and admitted that Cas didn't deserve to win on their performance today. I agree, you had the game all but won and then just stopped playing. Loads of poor body language from your team, too much walking to get back onside at turnovers and what appeared to be a total lack of desire to win.
As one of your own fans said after the game, you got what you deserved.
Good luck for the rest of the season, I am sure it will improve with the return of some of your injured players and most importantly, with a change of attitude.
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| What you on about? I was on about the prunes who deem it necessary to share their joy at our expense on here.
I don't deny the better side won. They did.
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| Quote ="LewisJ23"
As for the Barrow fans bless them...while in the toilet one said "I think we can go all the way, who do you think can stop us !?" and he was being serious...brought a smile to my face
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Was probably a take, we know the enormity of trying to complete with SL clubs, if we played you 10 times we;d be lucky to win 2.
Today was one of those days.
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| Lap them days up mate. Good luck to you. You'll do Hunslet as per, then would love to see a SL side come to Craven Park.
To be honest, Fax should of beaten us last year, if that wasn't a warning sign then I don't know what was. Injuries can't justify us today.
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| Quote ="mick wilson"Was probably a mickey take, we know the enormity of trying to complete with SL clubs, if we played you 10 times we;d be lucky to win 2.
Today was one of those days.'"
Reading that again makes me sound like a right.....yeh anyway well done mate...you deserved it...your fans are class...remind me of cas fans a couple of years ago...good luck for the rest of the season and at least say hi when you pass us on the way into super league
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| Quote ="Towns88"<original post edited>'"
oh dear one of those who can give it yeah but..........
been there before getting knocked out by a lesser club is never easy but that's cup football,
=#0040FFyou're a mod - why quote something that breaks the AUP? - Bonzo
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"oh dear
one of those who can give it yeah but..........
been there before getting knocked out by a lesser club is never easy but that's cup football,'"
Think his post was in response to the trolls not to the Barrow fans.
HTH
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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"Think his post was in response to the trolls not to the Barrow fans.
HTH'"
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| Personally I don't see the shock.
One on form team beating a poor, off form, team.
Nice to see Ned Catic score the winner!
Are Cas now showing their true, lower league, colours?
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| I'm glad I didn't go.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Are Cas now showing their true, lower league, colours?'"
Only so much as Ryan Bailey is the most feared man in Super League
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Personally I don't see the shock.
One on form team beating a poor, off form, team.
Nice to see Ned Catic score the winner!
Are Cas now showing their true, lower league, colours?'" We still beat your shower troll
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| Quote ="baztiger"We still beat your shower troll
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That you did.
Like in the season you got relegated.
You have won your GF this season.
But the fan fare after that game was OTT.
The reality of what Cas can or cannot achieve is becoming clear. Salford's and Quins' form is slightly improving. The Crusaders have 'solid' written all over them. So the chance of scrapping at the bottom is odds on with the bookies at the minute.
You recent run of defeats and form back this up.
With off the field incidents not helping you are in a hole at the moment. I think every team in SL would want to play Cas right now.
But don't write this off as trolling. They are all vaild comments.
On the plus side you have talent in that team.
Leeds were on a dismal run but are slowly turning it round with results and performance. So it can be done.
But full credit to Barrow. The romance of the cup lives on and they have a nice tie which they deserve. Barrow deserve the credit of knocking out a SL team regardless of how poor that team was.
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Only so much as Ryan Bailey is the most feared man in Super League
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That's a resounding YES then.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Leeds were on a dismal run but are slowly turning it round with results and performance. So it can be done.'"
Of course it can and we have achieved that plenty of times in the past, yet in your previous post you said:
Quote ="thebloodbath"Are Cas now showing their true, lower league, colours?'"
Why contradict yourself, or are you just a troll?
Obviously we're not privvy to what's going on in the background and whilst the vibes aren't good, the hope is that extra effort is being diverted into the stadium development.
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| Quote ="Bonzo"Of course it can and we have achieved that plenty of times in the past, yet in your previous post you said:
Why contradict yourself, or are you just a troll?
Obviously we're not privvy to what's going on in the background and whilst the vibes aren't good, the hope is that extra effort is being diverted into the stadium development.'"
Look Cas have talent. But can they keep up with the pace of SL?
They have been relegated and promoted a couple of times over the last few years.
The 'new ground' is a huge hurdle to get a license next time around.
Cas had a good year for them last time, but everything will be taken into account.
So the 'yo yo' effect won't help their cause. If the season carries on in this manner I would be seriously worried.
Because of their recent relegations you need to be hitting the top 8 to show signs of progress.
You do have some quality there. But do you have enough of it? What also isn't helping IMO is that the teams who were in and around you last year seem to have strengthened their squads and look better teams. Would you say Cas have kicked on? I think you first team can hold up (hence the top 8 finish last year) but your squad as a hole is where you will fall down IMO.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Look Cas have talent. But can they keep up with the pace of SL?
They have been relegated and promoted a couple of times over the last few years.
The 'new ground' is a huge hurdle to get a license next time around.
Cas had a good year for them last time, but everything will be taken into account.
So the 'yo yo' effect won't help their cause. If the season carries on in this manner I would be seriously worried.
Because of their recent relegations you need to be hitting the top 8 to show signs of progress.
You do have some quality there. But do you have enough of it? What also isn't helping IMO is that the teams who were in and around you last year seem to have strengthened their squads and look better teams. Would you say Cas have kicked on? I think you first team can hold up (hence the top 8 finish last year) but your squad as a hole is where you will fall down IMO.'"
We have a small squad which does not help in the slightest unlike your Leeds team who have a big squad.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"You do have some quality there. But do you have enough of it? What also isn't helping IMO is that the teams who were in and around you last year seem to have strengthened their squads and look better teams. Would you say Cas have kicked on? I think you first team can hold up (hence the top 8 finish last year) but your squad as a hole is where you will fall down IMO.'"
Our squad depth is a major issue and is costing us massively at the moment. We were relatively lucky with injuries last season but it's been quite the opposite this time around. Being out of the cup may be a blessing in disguise as we have a chance to rest players and get a few back. A decent run of form through June, July and August could put us in with a shot of the top 8, and weather conditions characteristic of those months have been advantageous to our squad and style of play in past.
With regards to the license application, the stadium and on-field performances would seem to be our only downfall at the moment as the club have made progress in all other areas off the field. The stadium is key though, and if the club's efforts behind the scenes are focussed there at the moment that's fine. However many fans are disgruntled by a lack of evidence to suggest that progress is being made.
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| Quote ="Bonzo"Our squad depth is a major issue and is costing us massively at the moment. We were relatively lucky with injuries last season but it's been quite the opposite this time around. Being out of the cup may be a blessing in disguise as we have a chance to rest players and get a few back. A decent run of form through June, July and August could put us in with a shot of the top 8, and weather conditions characteristic of those months have been advantageous to our squad and style of play in past.
With regards to the license application, the stadium and on-field performances would seem to be our only downfall at the moment as the club have made progress in all other areas off the field. The stadium is key though, and if the club's efforts behind the scenes are focussed there at the moment that's fine. However many fans are disgruntled by a lack of evidence to suggest that progress is being made.'"
Leeds over the last few years have made the most out of going out of the cup. Turn a negative into a positive. I suppose the draw back would be the missing out on the cash benefit which is there for the later rounds.
With the RFL looking favourably on clubs out of the homeland area Cas and Wakie are sitting ducks IMO. So you need to be meeting all requirements on the head to justify why Cas are in SL. Gone are the days of letting results on the paddock decide this. But the current poor form is one thing, but the stadium question mark will probably be your biggest hurdle to overcome. Not only does it need to get moving you need to show where you are with things at the moment, so I can see why the Cas fans are rightfully concerned.
(If you are struggling maybe hook up with Wakie and or Fev.)
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Look Cas have talent. But can they keep up with the pace of SL?
They have been relegated and promoted a couple of times over the last few years.
The 'new ground' is a huge hurdle to get a license next time around.
Cas had a good year for them last time, but everything will be taken into account.
So the 'yo yo' effect won't help their cause. If the season carries on in this manner I would be seriously worried.
Because of their recent relegations you need to be hitting the top 8 to show signs of progress.
You do have some quality there. But do you have enough of it? What also isn't helping IMO is that the teams who were in and around you last year seem to have strengthened their squads and look better teams. Would you say Cas have kicked on? I think you first team can hold up (hence the top 8 finish last year) but your squad as a hole is where you will fall down IMO.'" Leeds may have a big squad but when some of your big players were out every SL team wanted to play Leeds, if we could put a full team out think we could match anybody like we did against your lot! its not how good you are from 1 to 17 but from 17 to 25 and like leeds we have been found wanting.
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"shame that the poster who posted it as a rep for doing the same thing
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Hypocrite. Stick to where you belong mate. You're as much use on here as a hole in the head.
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| Quote ="baztiger"Leeds may have a big squad but when some of your big players were out every SL team wanted to play Leeds, if we could put a full team out think we could match anybody like we did against your lot! its not how good you are from 1 to 17 but from 17 to 25 and like leeds we have been found wanting.'"
I think the point is we can rest 4 or 5 players on any given day and still compete (We had 4 out on Saturday) but I don't think Cas could really say that. I wouldn't expect you to either but that's the fact of the matter. When we had our poor run we had 9 players out at one time with confidence already low. No team in the country can deal with that.
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| Quote ="GCM1980"I think the point is we can rest 4 or 5 players on any given day and still compete (We had 4 out on Saturday) but I don't think Cas could really say that. I wouldn't expect you to either but that's the fact of the matter. When we had our poor run we had 9 players out at one time with confidence already low. No team in the country can deal with that.'"
Yer your right we had 9 missing 2
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