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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Errr, No. Ryan Hudson was not known to be a drug cheat when we signed him. That's all there is to it. You signed him full well knowing he was a drug cheat, and that's all there is to that.'"
If we give you a gold star and tell you that you are king of the internet, will you go away?
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| Quote ="pyeman"You signed him and then he became a drug cheat, coincidence?'"
No, we signed him in faith that he wasn't, and fired him when we became aware he was. You signed him to play for you with full knowledge that he was a cheat, same as you did with Chambers.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"No, we signed him in faith that he wasn't, and fired him when we became aware he was. You signed him to play for you with full knowledge that he was a cheat, same as you did with Chambers.'"
And with 1 past-tense word in bold, the case is closed.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"No, we signed him in faith that he wasn't, and fired him when we became aware he was. You signed him to play for you with full knowledge that he was a cheat, same as you did with Chambers.'"
The only club he has been caught taking drugs at is bradford. When he played for us the first time (and wakey) there was no problem, then he played for you (a team with a history of cheating, ie salary cap) and was caught cheating. He serves his time and then plays for hudds and cas (whilst being one of the most regularly tested men in rl) and there is no problem.
So to recap- in two spells at cas, as well as one at hudds and wakey, no cheating.
One spell at bulls, cheating.
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| Quote ="pyeman"The only club he has been caught taking drugs at is bradford. When he played for us the first time (and wakey) there was no problem, then he played for you (a team with a history of cheating, ie salary cap) and was caught cheating. He serves his time and then plays for hudds and cas (whilst being one of the most regularly tested men in rl) and there is no problem.
So to recap- in two spells at cas, as well as one at hudds and wakey, no cheating.
One spell at bulls, cheating.'"
The club he's at when he's caught cheating has nothing to do with it though, it's not a clubs fault a player has decided to cheat the game.
or are you suggesting the Bulls encouraged Hudson to take performances enhancing drugs?
At the end of the day, we cut him when he was caught, you signed a known drug cheat, aswell as offering opportunity to an other
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"The club he's at when he's caught cheating has nothing to do with it though, it's not a clubs fault a player has decided to cheat the game.
or are you suggesting the Bulls encouraged Hudson to take performances enhancing drugs?
At the end of the day, we cut him when he was caught, you signed a known drug cheat, aswell as offering opportunity to an other'"
Well it depends if someone influenced him doesnt it? after all theres no evidence to suggest he ever did it at other clubs, so what made him want to do it in the first place i wonder
You had no coice but to 'cut him off' he was banned.
Cas have every right to give him a second chance though, after all he didnt do anything wrong when he played for us before (obviously better influences at cas than bradford), he has served his time according to the rules of the game.
By the way i was wondering if you could help me, after the solomona, harris and platt sagas which player are the bulls going to be signing illegally this year?
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| Quote ="pyeman"Well it depends if someone influenced him doesnt it? after all theres no evidence to suggest he ever did it at other clubs, so what made him want to do it in the first place i wonder
You had no coice but to 'cut him off' he was banned.
Cas have every right to give him a second chance though, after all he didnt do anything wrong when he played for us before (obviously better influences at cas than bradford), he has served his time according to the rules of the game.
By the way i was wondering if you could help me, after the solomona, harris and platt sagas which player are the bulls going to be signing illegally this year?'"
Yeah somebody influenced him, himself. Why did he wan't to do it in the first place?....err, to enhance his performance....obviously, you know...performance enhancers.????
Why didn't we have a choice?, he was our employeee, he was banned from 2 years, we signed him for 3, but seen as though we don't want to be assosiated with drugs cheats, we terminated his contract, straight away.
Cas have every right to do what they wan't, and they showed that they are tolerant of drugs, and known drugs cheats when they signed Hudson and trialed Chambers.
Yeah I can help you, nobody.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Yeah somebody influenced him, himself. Why did he wan't to do it in the first place?....err, to enhance his performance....obviously, you know...performance enhancers.????
Why didn't we have a choice?, he was our employeee, he was banned from 2 years, we signed him for 3, but seen as though we don't want to be assosiated with drugs cheats, we terminated his contract, straight away.
Cas have every right to do what they wan't, and they showed that they are tolerant of drugs, and known drugs cheats when they signed Hudson and trialed Chambers.
Yeah I can help you, nobody.'"
So as we've already established hudson only cheated when he was at bulls, so theres no problem with signing him because he doesnt cheat when he plays for other clubs, he only cheated as a bulls player. Strange that isnt it.
No players at cas take performance enhancing drugs, whilst bradford players do.
Yeah bulls were going to pay him for 3 years when he could only play for one, yeah thats some choice.
Good to know, the bulls arejust sticking to trying to sign blokes who attack women then.
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| Quote ="pyeman"So as we've already established hudson only cheated when he was at bulls, so theres no problem with signing him because he doesnt cheat when he plays for other clubs, he only cheated as a bulls player. Strange that isnt it.
No players at cas take performance enhancing drugs, whilst bradford players do.
Yeah bulls were going to pay him for 3 years when he could only play for one, yeah thats some choice.
Good to know, the bulls arejust sticking to trying to sign blokes who attack women then.'"
All that's been established is that you have somehow got it into your numb skull that he was somehow encouraged or influenced to take performance enhancers by staff at Bulls. Ryan decided that, all by himself, it was nothing to do with the people at the club he was at, or indeed what club he was at.
No players at Cas taking performance enhancers?..well blow me away, but don't you continue to employ the man in question who is indeed a known taker of performance enhancing substances?
Adding further more to Castleford's assosiation with drug cheats and drug takers, you employ a man suspended in Australia for taking illegal, class a, recreational drugs, Mitchell Sargent.
Bulls were not going to pay him for 3 years when he couldn't play for 2, but they still had the choice wether to continue to employ him in some capacity withing the club, we choose not to, because we don't assosiate our selves with drug takers and performance cheats.
Who are Bulls trying to sign that attacks females?
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"All that's been established is that you have somehow got it into your numb skull that he was somehow encouraged or influenced to take performance enhancers by staff at Bulls. Ryan decided that, all by himself, it was nothing to do with the people at the club he was at, or indeed what club he was at.
No players at Cas taking performance enhancers?..well blow me away, but don't you continue to employ the man in question who is indeed a known taker of performance enhancing substances?
Adding further more to Castleford's assosiation with drug cheats and drug takers, you employ a man suspended in Australia for taking illegal, class a, recreational drugs, Mitchell Sargent.
Bulls were not going to pay him for 3 years when he couldn't play for 2, but they still had the choice wether to continue to employ him in some capacity withing the club, we choose not to, because we don't assosiate our selves with drug takers and performance cheats.
Who are Bulls trying to sign that attacks females?'"
Dont start making up facts!!!
If you are banned, you can not have any involvment in the game during that period!!!
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Dont start making up facts!!!
If you are banned, you can not have any involvment in the game during that period!!!'"
Says who?
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Says who?'"
The World Anti-Doping Authority, which Rugby League is a co operating member
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"The World Anti-Doping Authority, which Rugby League is a co operating member'"
Doesn't mean that they can't be employed by the club though.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Doesn't mean that they can't be employed by the club though.'"
They cant have any involved in their sport during that time (cant train, cant coach etc etc)!!!! It is not hard to understand.......well l thought not anyway!
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"They cant have any involved in their sport during that time (cant train, cant coach etc etc)!!!! It is not hard to understand.......well l thought not anyway!'"
They may not be able to coach, train and play their sport during their suspension, but they can still be employed by clubs, but in a non playing, coaching capacity, ask Wigan and Gareth Hock.
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| Sorry, what's your point again?
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| World expert on drugs and druggies, what are you on?
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| Quote ="BFB"World expert on drugs and druggies, what are you on?
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Don't have to be an expert, it's all been in the press, everybody knows it.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"All that's been established is that you have somehow got it into your numb skull that he was somehow encouraged or influenced to take performance enhancers by staff at Bulls. Ryan decided that, all by himself, it was nothing to do with the people at the club he was at, or indeed what club he was at.
No players at Cas taking performance enhancers?..well blow me away, but don't you continue to employ the man in question who is indeed a known taker of performance enhancing substances?
Adding further more to Castleford's assosiation with drug cheats and drug takers, you employ a man suspended in Australia for taking illegal, class a, recreational drugs, Mitchell Sargent.
Bulls were not going to pay him for 3 years when he couldn't play for 2, but they still had the choice wether to continue to employ him in some capacity withing the club, we choose not to, because we don't assosiate our selves with drug takers and performance cheats.
Who are Bulls trying to sign that attacks females?'"
All i have said is that the only club ryan hudson has taken performancing enhancing drugs, despite being at a number of clubs over the years, is bradford. strange how he didnt take anything till he was a bulls player isnt it.
No player has ever been found taking performancing whilst at castleford whilst at bulls they have, i wonder why that is?
Your club dont associate with drug takers, well thats nice, i would be more impressed if you didnt try to sign men who attack women, illegaly sign players again and again, and break the salary cap.
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| sorry but as a bradford fan you carnt be slagging the recruitment team at cas with the great season you have had come on
and if you going on at hudson he was confirmed a bradford bulls player when he was tested and found positive end of story didnt he have a medical?,but hes done his time for the crime and moved on. like if noby came back to bradford annd brought hock with him in 2 years would you complain then?
sounds to me your just upset cause were gunna end your playoff dream and looking at stupid ways to have a dig at cas cause you have had a bad season
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| Quote ="pyeman"All i have said is that the only club ryan hudson has taken performancing enhancing drugs, despite being at a number of clubs over the years, is bradford. strange how he didnt take anything till he was a bulls player isnt it.
No player has ever been found taking performancing whilst at castleford whilst at bulls they have, i wonder why that is?
Your club dont associate with drug takers, well thats nice, i would be more impressed if you didnt try to sign men who attack women, illegaly sign players again and again, and break the salary cap.'"
No, because it's got nothing to do with what club he is at, it's an individual choice wether Ryan takes them, whatever club he is at. There's nothing strange about it.
I know you are not thick, but do you seriously think that Ryan Hudson was encouraged to to take performances enhancers, at Bulls, because to me, that seems very close to what you are getting at.
What cannot be disputed though, is Cas have reputation for signing drug takers and drug cheats.
Hey, Your reference to what is more than likley Greg Bird is wrong, he was an innocent man by law when we attempted to sign him. Other than Harris, who's the again and again, Solomona signing was straight up, as was Michael Platts.
Cas have also broke the salary cap aswell, so people in glass houses and all that.
Just face it, your club signs druggies.
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| At the end of the day Hudson was banned whilst he was a Bulls player,could terry munster theirfor kindly inform us all of the actual date that he was tested on? only then can we be certain as to which club razzer was employed by when he was tested positive
Bulls were salary cap cheats in 2005,the season they actually won the grand final,who says that cheating doesnt pay?
Not even mr munster can deny that
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| Thought this thread was about chris feather and ryan bailey.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster" Harris'"
How much has that signing cost your club?
imo it has set the Bulls back 10 years,the whinos took you to the cleaners financially and all your best best players subsequently were forced to leave the club
I will go on record here and say that the Bulls will not win another trophy for the next 5 seasons--------unless they break the salary cap again of course
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| Quote ="poppys mum"Thought this thread was about chris feather and ryan bailey.'"
It was until herman munster arrived
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