How on earth can you use the word great for Shifty? Mike Ford-Great, Brad Davis-Great, Sherwin-OK at best



Sarg has been the best signing of the Matterson era, the lad is class

The vast majority haven't though.

In Sarge and Nutley, there are two players whose quality has overshadowed the disappointment of others

Perhaps because he is an excellent scrum half who sets up a great deal of tries and organises us around the field, ie exactley what he was supposed to do, he was playing with a busted ankle most of last year and he still came third in the try assists charts.

we fell across sarge as his last option he was depserate man and we were the only ones to take a gamble on him.

So we got Sarge by chance? Give your head a shake mate

sargent is very good 100%er chase shows mega promise and could be a great player for the club Sherwin was below par last season and through injury i doubt we will ever see the best of him. neatherton is learning feather not too sure the size of the lad is immense his impact at time is small, evans jones two good signings widders are you on drugs the bloke was nearly sent home because his fitness levels were well below par he is grossly overweight now and is a bit part player in the team, will always be a injury prone porker.

And no try to his name

His kicking game has lost us as many matches as its won


I have no doubt his injuries have affected his indifferent performances but I can't help thinking that for the big money I assume he's on we could pop over and sign Myler from Salford and have change---food for thought

1. Scored at Celtic earlier this year.

Think we may have some competition from clubs that have a significantly higher budget and are more attractive in terms of winning things.

No not on drugs when widders has been playing he hasnt put a foot wrong, tackled well and drove the ball in, he may look tubby (wish is why some people have such a problem with him and doesnt pay attention to what he does well) but he has a suprising turn of speed and without him we wouldnt have won the bradford game.

Two tries actually. What games did his kicking lose us? And as for myler i'm sure every club in the country wants him, many with a larger checkbook than us. When widnes went bust and he was suddenly out of work we would have been able to sign him, and we probably should have got smith and beswick at the same time.

Is that why with a fit Sherwin at the start of the season we had a positive record and were scoring points for fun and now without him I'm not sure we've won a game.
He leads the team and creates chances for others. That's why we have a nippy stand off to compliment his style.

Exactley, unfortunatley logic like that seems to be lost on many of our fans.

You made reference to last year so I quoted for last year

Do you really the young lad will get anywhere near the £££'s a 'proven' Aussie scrum half



Thats just how it appears to work in this country

Hold on, have we given up

Why are so many Cas fans so happy with mediocrity

More attractive clubs



Never heard such sh*te in my life. Lets all just pack up and go home eh

Since he is arguabley the hotest property in rl in the moment and an england international, quite possibley yes. If your talking about when widnes went bust no we could have picked him up for next to nothing, but if we had i daresay many of our fans would have said he was gash and had only been signed cause he was cheap, and then systematically destroyed the kids confidence.

Were you not there to see his masterclass in Edinburgh? His short kicking game has been very inconsistent since he pulled on a Cas shirt. I did say that the injuries had probably affected this if you care to read before you type

Widders needs to come good and get injury free, otherwise a bad move offering 3 yrs.

No doubt he has the ability but that's no good to us for a handful of games per season

If you offer a kid (with no ties to either club) the chance to go to saint helens who have won the cup 4 out of the last 5 years, have toped the league for the last 4 years, and appear in the grand final pretty much every year (and won it 3 years ago) or go to cas who have won promotion back into sl twice in 5 years what do you think his descision will be?

And this despite offering the kid big £££ that would have otherwise been in the coffers of an Aussie superstar will make no difference



As I said, lets pack up and go home then

But if saint offered him big money as well, what actual reason does he have to pick cas over them or any other team. its not a case of lets pack up and go home then, anyone who thought we would challenge for honours the year after we were bottom is slack, we need to build the team up year on year ie we are better this year than last.

What's with the aggressive nature of your post? Somebody not agree with you opinion so you you throw a massive dummy spit? Come back and talk when you have grown up a bit and can engage in a rational debate.

I could explain what I meant with my previous post but frankly can't be @rsed, the more rational amongst you fully understood what I meant without frothing at the mouth.

I just fecking give up with this forum.

Aggressive





I'm passionate about my club, not a crime



However I do take offence at so called cas fans running our own club down. I offer a different opinion to you and quite a few others on here who seem quite happy with mediocrity. You seem content to accept the status of Cas as not having the right to challenge "a club like St Helens" for the top talent, or the top honours---this can't be right surely



I won't give up on the forum though, no frothing, no dummy spits, just giving you and your chums a different opinion

Where on God's earth have I or anyone said that? Clubs that are winning things are more "attractive" to young players, we are not winning things ergo the like of Leeds/Saints are more "attractive", not a hard point to grasp. Also, a few clubs have more financial clout than us, another factor in swaying where a player decides to move to.

I would love Cas to be able to challenge the like of Saints but it is not going to happen overnight, I would much rather continue at the rate of progress we are currently making. We have a fantastic crop of youngsters progressing nicely, a coach who believes in giving youth a chance and are currently financially sound.

In short, we are moving in the right direction although not as fast as some would like.