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| These arguments are pointless, both sets of fans are going to believe that decisions by ref wrongly went against them.
It just sounds in this case as if we had a few major decisions go against us.
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| Quote ="therobins"Exactly. The game was over by that time (if it happened) and there was no consequence from it. Btw, you did very well to spot all the offsides from behind the posts. Did you have panoramic binoculars?
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Me and everyone around me noticed you players making no effort to get onside about 20 mins from the end so if the game was over by then you should have said then I would have gone on my way.
Just ask yourself where we were camped with and without the ball while this was going on. IIRC then I'd say quite near our own try line so rather than trying to be the funny zany poster why don't you think about it.
Quote ="Bearded"These arguments are pointless, both sets of fans are going to believe that decisions by ref wrongly went against them.
It just sounds in this case as if we had a few major decisions go against us.'"
I just can't understand what game they were watching because the cas fans were going crazy were I was sat.
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| Quote ="rover49"You keep going on about the Dixon incident, the player who decked Welham should have walked, which DEFINATELY would have changed the game.'"
Welham slipped / ducked in to the tackle. A penalty - no more.
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| Quote ="Nev0807"Welham slipped / ducked in to the tackle. A penalty - no more.'"
Yeah ok then
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| Quote ="Gaslight"So would the penalty try - Hull KR scored a few tackles after it.'" Was that the were you got a penalty for a shove by Fox?
If it is I suggest you go and look up the rules which causes a penatly try to be awarded as that isn't what happened on friday night.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Was that the were you got a penalty for a shove by Fox?
If it is I suggest you go and look up the rules which causes a penatly try to be awarded as that isn't what happened on friday night.'"
So Lee Radford, the other commentator and radio Humberside, as well as people at the game were all wrong?
By all accounts Dixon would have scored, Radford said:
"If this isn't a penalty try the ref has bottled it"
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| Quote ="Gaslight"So Lee Radford, the other commentator and radio Humberside, as well as people at the game were all wrong?
By all accounts Dixon would have scored, Radford said:
"If this isn't a penalty try the ref has bottled it"'" Is that Lee Radford The hull FC captian and Dixon's former team mate?
Let me ask you a couple of questions.
1 Seeing as Dixon didnt have the ball in his hands is it possilbe he could have knocked it on?
2 Is it possible the ball could have taken a wicked bounce?
3 Is it possible that Fox being so close to Dixon could have pushed him in touch anyway?
If you can definatly answer no to all those questions then its a penalty try otherwise
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| Quote ="Gaslight"So Lee Radford, the other commentator and radio Humberside, as well as people at the game were all wrong?
By all accounts Dixon would have scored, Radford said:
"If this isn't a penalty try the ref has bottled it"'"
Gaslight; read my post on the other subject.... im sure it isnt just cas that thought it was a penalty try, and the rules state if he runs the same line he can shove him out the way....... he changed his line and took him out - no one else was around that would of got to the ball therefore its a penalty try.
How has your fitness been by the way, they were quite afew who were blowing hard even in the 1st half....
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| Quote ="very red robin"Gaslight; read my post on the other subject.... im sure it isnt just cas that thought it was a penalty try, and the rules state if he runs the same line he can shove him out the way....... he changed his line and took him out - no one else was around that would of got to the ball therefore its a penalty try.
How has your fitness been by the way, they were quite afew who were blowing hard even in the 1st half....
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| Quote ="Roverswall"So there is no way no matter how small that Dixon would have knocked on then?, Or that the ball could have taken a wicked bounce?'"
same convo on both threads!!! lol
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| Quote ="very red robin"same convo on both threads!!! lol
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| Quote ="Roverswall"So there is no way no matter how small that Dixon would have knocked on then?, Or that the ball could have taken a wicked bounce?'"
If the referee thinks a try would probably been scored then he can award a penalty try. That's all there is to it.
Fortunately he didn't.
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| The ref was bad for both teams, simple as. Things went for and against both sides.
You Cas fans are blaming the loss of the game on the ref decisions, truth is your discipline was bad and let you down, hence the penalty count.
As for the hot topic of the was it a penalty try? It was not beyond a shadow of a doubt he would have scored it, so therefore not a penalty try.
Your a good side and for your second season back up are making great progress, TM is obviously a great coach and will take you far.
I like Cas and think you have some great fans, but all this complaining is making you sound like sore losers. IMO there was not a decision that "lost you the game" a culmination of poor discipline and panicking in attacking positions was why you lost the game. Get some bodies back and you will win more than you lose.
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| FFS this wasn't a thread about the ref decisions last night, but ref decisions over the past few weeks.
Trust KR fans to get all uppity and defensive, you won, get over it...
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| Quote ="Gazemous"FFS this wasn't a thread about the ref decisions last night, but ref decisions over the past few weeks.
Trust KR fans to get all uppity and defensive, you won, get over it...'"
All 20,000 of them too...
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Was that the were you got a penalty for a shove by Fox?
If it is I suggest you go and look up the rules which causes a penatly try to be awarded as that isn't what happened on friday night.'"
From the angle I was at in the east stand it looked as though Fox ran the same angle as the Cas player and simply shouldered him (which is within the rules)
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| From what I've been told the Ref was bad for both teams. It's become a classic Matterson after match rant now, blame the ref not the team. It's so predictable it's boring.
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| Quote ="therobins"Exactly. The game was over by that time (if it happened) and there was no consequence from it. Btw, you did very well to spot all the offsides from behind the posts. Did you have panoramic binoculars?
'" its the only way to watch at your place
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| Quote ="deeHell"From what I've been told the Ref was bad for both teams. It's become a classic Matterson after match rant now, blame the ref not the team. It's so predictable it's boring.'" trollin again are we
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| Quote ="deeHell"From what I've been told the Ref was bad for both teams. It's become a classic Matterson after match rant now, blame the ref not the team. It's so predictable it's boring.'"
Haven't you got your home attendances to be discussing on your own forum?
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| I didn't attend the game but from what's been said on here it doesn't sound like a penalty try should have been awarded.
As has been mentioned already by KR fans, unless the ref is very close to 100% certain that a try would have been awarded then he shouldn't award a penalty try. If Dixon didn't even have the ball in his hands I can't see how he could be certain that he would have scored hence it sounds like a penalty only should have been awarded - I presume one was?!
In the previous couple of games refs have made crucial decisions that have gone against us. Whilst the butterfly effect means you don't know whether Cas would have won had the ref given a different decision it's fair to say the decision didn't help in what were 2 very tight games.
As far as I recall, Morgan had a right old go at the ref in a game that KR were comprehensively beaten. I'd have thought that Matterson has at least as much right to complain in a tight game where one or two refs decisions could conceivably have made the difference...
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| The RL authorities should throw the book at him, after every loss he spouts up about the ref, it's becoming a joke He's undermining the the respect of the Refs. Even after been awarded 15 penalties to 5 against Huddersfield he still went on one of his rants. It's getting that embarrassing it makes me cringe!
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| Quote ="deeHell"The RL authorities should throw the book at him, after every loss he spouts up about the ref, it's becoming a joke He's undermining the the respect of the Refs. Even after been awarded 15 penalties to 5 against Huddersfield he still went on one of his rants. It's getting that embarrassing it makes me cringe!'"
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| Quote ="deeHell"The RL authorities should throw the book at him, after every loss he spouts up about the ref, it's becoming a joke He's undermining the the respect of the Refs. Even after been awarded 15 penalties to 5 against Huddersfield he still went on one of his rants. It's getting that embarrassing it makes me cringe!'"
Poor attempt at trolling even for you....
Try harder..
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| Quote ="Reenyrobin"
all this complaining is making you sound like sore losers.
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Hang on a minute, did'nt justin morgan moan moan moan 2/3 weeks back about the ref.......errr Mmm yeah i think he did.
All this moaning makes you/justin morgan sound like sore losers pfff
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